Haas - American team in F1

[bhall II]

Rossi and Daly have at least played with the DRS, and KERS knobs once or twice.

One's gotta imagine Danica's played with a few knobs, too. But, does that really make her qualified to drive in F1?

[Cam]

Not sure that's appropriate. Women entering any sport have a tough enough time without yobbos hurling innuendo.

The licence is issued to drivers who have met a criteria of success in junior motorsport categories and achieved 300 kilometres (190 mi) of running in a Formula One car.

That's all that's required. If we want to discuss who's "qualified" to drive in F1, well, there's a few male drivers of questionable skill that seem to have managed it.

F1 is less and less about driver skill (we've had whole threads on it) and more about marketing and show. So why would any driver be any less appropriate under those circumstances?

[bhall II]

Not sure that's appropriate. Women entering any sport have a tough enough time without yobbos hurling innuendo.

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So, the only way for women to be considered equal to everyone else is if we treat them differently than everyone else? Got it.

If it's valid to argue that Pastor Maldonado has ascended through the ranks of motorsport because of his financial backing, then it's equally valid to argue that Danica Patrick has done likewise because of her status as a sex symbol, a position she's actively sought and exploited.

(But, most importantly, it was a ---' joke.)

[Cam]

Call me old fashioned, but I consider there to a difference between a female (or male) who models to promote their sport, and the inference that they handle cocks.

Probably wrong though. I'm on a run at the moment.

[Racer X]

She has used her good loocks to get more money out of things. and opportunities aswell so i think she earns a little dirty talk unlike other women like for example Susie from Williams... Its the same for men some are ass holes so you treat them like ass holes whats the difference respect is earned shes a sex symbol. Shes a public figure and i think its okay to call her on it.... Either way tho a good money making tool!!

[Cam]

Wow. ok. I guess I'm all alone here on this one. I've always been taught to never joke about that sort of thing. Question the conflicting messages being put out by appearing in 'revealing' photos, while appealing for sporting credibility - sure. I have no problem with that discussion. But surely a line needs to be drawn at the suggestion of sexual acts.

For the record, I don't agree with what Danica has done in the past. Yes, she sold out to flaunt her body as an advertising tool to make money. Same can be said for many sporting stars, males included, or is Beckam in his undies different somehow? She shouldn't pose semi-naked and ask for that to not used against her. That hasn't happened and that's not what happened here either. The insinuation was not about any modelling - it was about her ability to handle male appendages.

A joke? It was in poor taste - at least I thought it was.

Danica is perfect for the role of F1 driver, both for her sporting ability and her marketing value. Will she win a WDC? Who knows. But unless F1 does something to get women into F1 - the continued look of being a male dominated chauvinistic exercise in hypocrisy - won't end. And that's backed up with jokes like this. That's not good for woman, for kids or the sport as whole either.

[bhall II]

For the record: I suggested nothing about her ability to burp Private Ryan. I wouldn't know.

[Cam]

One's gotta imagine Danica's played with a few knobs, too.

(But, most importantly, it was a ---' joke.)

bhall - it's clear what you were saying. Whether it was a reflection of your values, a joke, tongue in cheek or poorly worded - you said it. You're entitled to that opinion. I'm simply saying I disagree and find it repulsive. I'm also entitled to that opinion - or again, is this forum only open to the 'few'?

For the record: I suggested nothing about her ability to burp Private Ryan. I wouldn't know.

I'll say no more on the matter. I'm in the minority, I'm wrong, I'm ranting, I'm a fan boy, I love Red Bull, I'm insane, I make no sense..... I'm also used to it.

Have a great day.

[strad]

Actually, I think it'd be great to have Kyle Busch have a go at it. F1 would finally have a driver with personallity again.

I love it when you joke around like that.
Neither Kurt nor Kyle have any personality imo, Unless by personality you mean being jerks. and neither could begin to belong in an F1 cockpit. again imo.

[countersteer]

Josef Newgarden... If he was driving for any one of the big 3, he would already have several wins. As it is, he's driving for a small, underfunded, single car team and continues to show well.

As for marketing appeal, He's young, good looking, articulate and has a great personality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Newgarden

[strad]

Certainly better than Busch

[Racer X]

Well for the record i didnt make a joke that was out of taste but i do believe that you get what you earn and they pose like this then they welcome it.

kind off hard to take them seriously if they go around like this..

[Cam]

Well for the record i didnt make a joke that was out of taste but i do believe that you get what you earn and they pose like this then they welcome it.

kind off hard to take them seriously if they go around like this..

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/ ... 1bfbb8.png

Both sexes do it, most sports have their respective 'pin ups', and use that to further their careers. Fully acceptable. If you believe that you cannot take a woman seriously for doing exactly the same thing as a man - well, there's a word for that.

The line is drawn at singling out a woman and then suggesting they can handle "knobs" so they must be suitable. I realise I'm the only one where who has an issue with that kind of tonne, which is kinda sad.

[FW17]

or look stupid like this

[Racer X]

I rather looks stupid like Hamilton they be an ass hole like Hunt. Tho hunt was an awesome racer an ass hole off the field.... Im not saying its wrong im just saying its something they need to accept that they are welcoming them selves to be treated like tools both men and women who do that... just like hamilton is open to being maid fun off for looking stupid... lol... so two are those girls opening to Sexist remarks by doing that type of photoshoots there have been other female drivers who dont do that type off thing they understand that they wont be taken seriously if they do. but oh well....


Anyways HAAS would be smart to put her in their car because she will bring alot of attention to the team.