2014 German Grand Prix - Hockenheim

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as far as I can see PIrelli predicts a two-stop-race - but in case it'll be one more Rosberg might have a problem in the end as he flat-spotted his set of softs during Q1 (so he has only two proper sets left and would need to take another set of used super softs in the end then)

[SidSidney]

2014 German Grand Prix Winner Odds

N. Rosberg 1.33
L. Hamilton 7.00 << Probably fair unless Rosberg DNFs again.
V. Bottas 9.00
F. Massa 17.00 << Bottas twice as likely to win as Massa? Worth a punt on Massa.
D. Ricciardo 21.00
S. Vettel 29.00 << In his home race, a large underdog against Ricciardo. Ouch.
F. Alonso 51.00
K. Magnussen 67.00 << Now that is actually a value bet. Starting forth, 100 EUR bet wins you 6700 EUR.

[Skett]

2014 German Grand Prix Winner Odds

N. Rosberg 1.33
L. Hamilton 7.00 << Probably fair unless Rosberg DNFs again.
V. Bottas 9.00
F. Massa 17.00 << Bottas twice as likely to win as Massa? Worth a punt on Massa.
D. Ricciardo 21.00
S. Vettel 29.00 << In his home race, a large underdog against Ricciardo. Ouch.
F. Alonso 51.00
K. Magnussen 67.00 << Now that is actually a value bet. Starting forth, 100 EUR bet wins you 6700 EUR.

Well I already have £2 on Massa, just cause it would be so poetic!

[Kiril Varbanov]

Hamilton is likely to start from the pit lane after alleged change of brake disks from Brembo to Carbon Industrie, which won't be regarded as safety issue, but a change of specification under parc ferme.

[SilverArrow10]

5 place grid penalty for Hamilton. Gearbox. Might as well start from pit lane now wont make much difference.

[basti313]

First raindrops in Hockenheim.

[Sevach]

Rosberg gained a bit of an advantage by going wide in T1, yesterday was a big anything goes...

[Bomber_Pilot]

It started to rain after the GP3 race.

[zeph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi21lTcYYjk

Rosberg gained a bit of an advantage by going wide in T1, yesterday was a big anything goes...

His lap looks sloppy. And yeah, he gets away with a LOT of stuff this season. Things that make me go mmmm......

[taperoo2k]

Can we expect overtakes? Stupid ERS BLOCKING overtakes....

Ban ERS and bring Kers back

MGU-K is the evolution of KERS - http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/under ... /8763.html
They are not going to reduce the amount of power the MGU-K recovers aka 160bhp or limit the MGU-H either.
I'm sure some of the drivers will spot overtaking opportunities during the race, it's just that aerodynamics is the limiting factor when it comes to overtaking (also depends on the track layout). As it has been for a long while now, regardless of what you are using to power an F1 car around a track.
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Well with a 5 place grid drop and if it is raining at the start of the race (or the track is damp), it might be wiser for Lewis to start from the pit lane to avoid any accidents that might occur at the start. Lewis is on a damage limitation exercise today, Rosberg will likely win, so the more point's Lewis scores the better for the drivers title battle for those of us who want to see it go to the very end.

[Sevach]

GP2 race was partially wet, ended on an almost completely dry track.

[Juzh]

Can we expect overtakes? Stupid ERS BLOCKING overtakes....

Ban ERS and bring Kers back

MGU-K is the evolution of KERS - http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/under ... /8763.html
They are not going to reduce the amount of power the MGU-K recovers aka 160bhp or limit the MGU-H either.
I'm sure some of the drivers will spot overtaking opportunities during the race, it's just that aerodynamics is the limiting factor when it comes to overtaking (also depends on the track layout). As it has been for a long while now, regardless of what you are using to power an F1 car around a track.

Power is not an issue here. He's saying ers should work like the old kers by pressing a button, so it's fully up the driver to use it in strategic places. This was a much a better system than current automatic deployment imo.

[SectorOne]

Hamilton will not start from pitlane, i suppose 20th is slightly safer then 15th in a way.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3138 ... r-changes/

[basti313]

Can we expect overtakes? Stupid ERS BLOCKING overtakes....

Ban ERS and bring Kers back

MGU-K is the evolution of KERS - http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/under ... /8763.html
They are not going to reduce the amount of power the MGU-K recovers aka 160bhp or limit the MGU-H either.
I'm sure some of the drivers will spot overtaking opportunities during the race, it's just that aerodynamics is the limiting factor when it comes to overtaking (also depends on the track layout). As it has been for a long while now, regardless of what you are using to power an F1 car around a track.

Power is not an issue here. He's saying ers should work like the old kers by pressing a button, so it's fully up the driver to use it in strategic places. This was a much a better system than current automatic deployment imo.

Well, the problem is the MGU-H. With the old KERS you could use all battery power on straight 1, 2 or 3...
With the new ERS-system you have MGU-H feeding power to the 120kW MGU-K on EVERY straight. So if one car feeds all battery energy to the MGU-K on straight 1 and the other car on straight 2 the difference will never be the full MGU-K energy, but only the rest that can not be supplied by the MGU-H.

[Tim.Wright]

Can we expect overtakes? Stupid ERS BLOCKING overtakes....

Ban ERS and bring Kers back

MGU-K is the evolution of KERS - http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/under ... /8763.html
They are not going to reduce the amount of power the MGU-K recovers aka 160bhp or limit the MGU-H either.
I'm sure some of the drivers will spot overtaking opportunities during the race, it's just that aerodynamics is the limiting factor when it comes to overtaking (also depends on the track layout). As it has been for a long while now, regardless of what you are using to power an F1 car around a track.

Power is not an issue here. He's saying ers should work like the old kers by pressing a button, so it's fully up the driver to use it in strategic places. This was a much a better system than current automatic deployment imo.

So you'd rather ERS is used as another overtaking gimmick instead of a properly integrated part of the drivetrain like it is now?