2014 German Grand Prix - Hockenheim

[smellybeard]

I'd just like to add voice to the collective amazement at the lack of a safety car for an abandoned car crossways on the main straight. Good or bad for the sport, I'm amazed.

[cherok1212]

I gotchu Redragon, I was acknowledging the stewards are FIA (also scary for LH) but i was wondering whos call is the SC?

[Shrieker]

Had the sc been deployed, did Rosberg have a fresh set of supersofts to bolt on at that stage of the race ?

I think Hamilton's last set was new. I don't think there's a conspiracy against Hamilton, but not bringing the sc out for a car that was stranded at the middle of the track ( start/finish straight no less) simply had an agenda.

Oh well... At least we now know the 's' in 'sc' doesn't stand for safety. Anything but. Disgusting how F1 is becoming WWE fast.

[richman9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKv4Dwp6Ehw

[basti313]

Had the sc been deployed, did Rosberg have a fresh set of supersofts to bolt on at that stage of the race ?

Like everybody else a set with 3 laps on it from the first attempt in Q2.

I think Hamilton's last set was new. I don't think there's a conspiracy against Hamilton, but not bringing the sc out for a car that was stranded at the middle of the track ( start/finish straight no less) simply had an agenda.

Why? It had no agenda:
- Possibility to stop for Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel and Alonso without loosing a place.
- They could have removed the Sauber safely with Marshals from the pit lane instead from the outer side...I do not know why these idiots were running across the race line. Rather stupid guys than need for a safety car.

Oh well... At least we now know the 's' in 'sc' doesn't stand for safety. Anything but. Disgusting how F1 is becoming WWE fast.

Some say it is WWE if they deploy more safety cars, some say it is WWE if they do not...

[Andres125sx]

I don´t understand the reason they didn´t deploy SC, but if I don´t understand race direction decisions that´s not new


Ricciardo performed great, he went around 14th after Massa-Magnusen crash as he had to avoid the williams, but from that point made a great race. His battle with Alonso was awesome

Bottas is proving his talent, his third podium on a row, that can´t be luck or cicumstances


Nice race for a boring seasson (again). Germany, with a german team beating the grid easily, a german driver leading the WDC, and track stands were not full.... F1 has serious problems

[langwadt]

I gotchu Redragon, I was acknowledging the stewards are FIA (also scary for LH) but i was wondering whos call is the SC?

from an old interview with Bernd Maylander
..
Q: Who decides when you should take to the track?
BM: The decision is made by the FIA race director, Charlie Whiting. He also decides when the safety car phase is finished.
..

the rules:
..
40.3 The safety car may be brought into operation to neutralise a race upon the order of the clerk of the course.
It will be used only if competitors or officials are in immediate physical danger but the circumstances are not such as to necessitate suspending the race.
..

[ringo]

The SC not coming out was very weird.
I think cutting down Rosberg's lead to almost nothing was what the FIA didn't want, as they know Hamilton would have a better chance of winning.
We already see what happens whenever the two are close on track. It's usually the #44 that winds up in front in the end.

If they couldn't call a safety car for this incident then i'm not sure what they will call it out for in the future. Does a plane need to crash into track, or does the ground need to split open?

[MercedesAMGSpy]

Had the sc been deployed, did Rosberg have a fresh set of supersofts to bolt on at that stage of the race ?

I think Hamilton's last set was new. I don't think there's a conspiracy against Hamilton, but not bringing the sc out for a car that was stranded at the middle of the track ( start/finish straight no less) simply had an agenda.

Oh well... At least we now know the 's' in 'sc' doesn't stand for safety. Anything but. Disgusting how F1 is becoming WWE fast.

Lewis agrees. He said in a Sky interview: ''you know why''.

[andrewf1]

Had the sc been deployed, did Rosberg have a fresh set of supersofts to bolt on at that stage of the race ?

I think Hamilton's last set was new. I don't think there's a conspiracy against Hamilton, but not bringing the sc out for a car that was stranded at the middle of the track ( start/finish straight no less) simply had an agenda.

Oh well... At least we now know the 's' in 'sc' doesn't stand for safety. Anything but. Disgusting how F1 is becoming WWE fast.

Lewis agrees. He said in a Sky interview: ''you know why''.

He has a solid point. Advantage Nico once again

[cirrusflyer]

Finally, TRICK on FRIC didn't worked. The order remained same and looks like it is going to remain same for next couple of races too.

Truth! No FRIC didnt change a lot...
But... Merc is running higher again (T-tray) and RedBull is again dragging front of the car on the road (sparks flying all over on the strait) and all that at the end of the race when cars were much lighter.

[cirrusflyer]

bottas 334 kmh, no drs, no slipstream. Meanwhile renaults are happy with 330 tops with drs and slipstream. How can you fight that? Simple, you can't.

It did not look that way to me. Remember HAM trying to overtake RIC (RIC onboard shot)? When he moved out of slipstream it appeared as he stopped. He did not progress any more. He manage to brake late on the inside of the turn but RIC slotted behind another car and HAM did not pass.
Williams had upper hand in top speed on Merc too. So truth RB cant fight Williams on straights.

[langwadt]

The SC not coming out was very weird.
I think cutting down Rosberg's lead to almost nothing was what the FIA didn't want, as they know Hamilton would have a better chance of winning.
We already see what happens whenever the two are close on track. It's usually the #44 that winds up in front in the end.

If they couldn't call a safety car for this incident then i'm not sure what they will call it out for in the future. Does a plane need to crash into track, or does the ground need to split open?

it was really weird, I was waiting for them to come up with some reasonable explanation, like; the radio didn't work, car
couldn't start or Bernd was on the loo

[iotar__]

Stop with these conspiracies, Hamilton should be glad he even finished this race in one piece after three contacts he caused including one heavy change of the line in the braking zone and causing a collision with Raikkonen. I've heard here sometime ago how it's a no-no with I think Grosjean's (Hungary) and Perez's (Spa) penalties in 2013. I guess different rules apply to different teams and drivers again. Wishful thinking of random events bailing him out after that is really stretching.

[sAx]

...Hamilton should be glad he even finished this race in one piece after three contacts he caused including one heavy change of the line in the braking zone and causing a collision with Raikkonen......

Just possibly only the cause of 2! http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/09134