2014 Italian GP - Monza, September 5-7

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Racer X wrote:Howmany more wins does Ross need to take the title and be done with this battle with Lewis?

4 if Hamilton gets no points at all, 3 will put him 97 in front with 100 points left, 4 will put him 122 in front with 75 left

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As opposed to nico saying "oh yeah. I did that --- on purpose to let lewis through man."

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Very nice interview for Massa after the race, talking about the crowd in the podium. "Tiffosi still love me." You can see the happiness in his face. Lets see if his bad luck goes away now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhRPXcQ0prQ

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RZS10 wrote:
Hobbs04 wrote:
Emerson.F wrote:Nico's lockup and Toto's reaction.

http://gfycat.com/ScentedWindingEskimodog
I don't speak German but looked like Toto said "Lewis is faster than you"

Looked like Nico gave up 7 points today as punishment.
Ugh... and Hamiltons problems with his race start mapping were also planned so that Nico would end up in front of him so that they could punish him afterwards #-o

He surely knew that Hamiltons pace was better and with Rosbergs mistake there would be no fight on track and therefore no chance of them hitting each other - reason enough to be happy? i think yes.
Why did Lewis pull away after the "chicane gate" where prior to that Nico was keeping a gap...

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ecapox wrote:As opposed to nico saying "oh yeah. I did that --- on purpose to let lewis through man."
Well, if you can believe he'd admit to running into the back of Hamilton on purpose, why not believe he'd come clean about letting him pass? :wtf:

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Is there another RB unfriendly track coming up where they would prefer an engine change? i'm surprised Vettel didnt take a new one here and take a penalty while there's little chance to get near the podium
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oT v1 wrote:Is there another RB unfriendly track coming up where they would prefer an engine change? i'm surprised Vettel didnt take a new one here and take a penalty while there's little chance to get near the podium
RBR said Vettel will likely get a 6th PU in Sochi, if I've understood the rules correctly it means he'll start from the pit lane.
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Gaz. wrote:
oT v1 wrote:Is there another RB unfriendly track coming up where they would prefer an engine change? i'm surprised Vettel didnt take a new one here and take a penalty while there's little chance to get near the podium
RBR said Vettel will likely get a 6th PU in Sochi, if I've understood the rules correctly it means he'll start from the pit lane.
........you mean a 10-place grid penalty.

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Magn-Bott was run of the mill racing situation. See this: Bottas (ahem) vs Hulkenberg India 13 for sth close enough
[BTW it was Hulkenberg that should have been penalised here for overtaking off-track and wasn't.] He forced him off track. Yes they do it often, of course depending on the situation and severity it can be penalised but not here (I mean Monza). I guarantee you that as always with those calls there will be an identical and much worse case ignored.

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Hobbs04 wrote: Why did Lewis pull away after the "chicane gate" where prior to that Nico was keeping a gap...
for several reasons:
1. Lewis was faster all weekend
2. it's harder to go fast while ridding in the draft unless you are substantially faster than the car infront
3. it probably took Nico a lap or two to collect himself after watching Lewis blow by
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The Tiffosi don't like Rosberg as either, I hope Rosberg doesn't make a vlog saying "It was the British fans again".

I love how Felipe Massa is embraced and loved by the Tiffosi! :)
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zeph wrote:
ecapox wrote:As opposed to nico saying "oh yeah. I did that --- on purpose to let lewis through man."
Well, if you can believe he'd admit to running into the back of Hamilton on purpose, why not believe he'd come clean about letting him pass? :wtf:
http://en.espnf1.com/italy/motorsport/story/174579.html
Toto -
"Only a paranoid mind could come up with such an idea," he said. "If it had been our idea then it was bloody well done! There was lots of pressure on Nico because Lewis was so quick yesterday. You could see that today as well."

Nico
"I've heard about that, but what would be the reason for me to do something like that deliberately. There is no possible reason," he said. "If you're ordered by the team to do it then you would do it, but there is no reason why the team would ask me to change position, or something like that."

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dans79 wrote:
Hobbs04 wrote: Why did Lewis pull away after the "chicane gate" where prior to that Nico was keeping a gap...
for several reasons:
1. Lewis was faster all weekend
2. it's harder to go fast while ridding in the draft unless you are substantially faster than the car infront
3. it probably took Nico a lap or two to collect himself after watching Lewis blow by
I'll give you first 2 points but the 3rd point I can't believe which is why it's smells of controversy

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The glaring issue with the conspiracy theory is why do it in that fashion? If I was Rosberg being told to move over I'd make it as plainly obvious as possible that it took me slowing down to let my teammate through, leaving no possible room for anyone to think it was my error, I'd not slalom through some dirty track harming my tyres and not lock them up to begin with. I'm surprised this is the theory people have latched onto, I thought breaking Lewis' fw on the grid and the poor start have far better grounds for a conspiracy. But the bigger the better I suppose.