Lewis Hamilton took the win at the Italian Grand Prix, recovering from a troubled start that saw him fall back to fourth after the first lap. Nico Rosberg finished in second place while former Ferrari driver Felipe Massa takes his first ever podium for Williams.
Realized i haven´t seen the monza pole lap and reading this got me even more intrigued.
Rosberg had a slight edge in the first sector of the lap, but Hamilton was untouchable in the second, particularly at the two demanding Lesmo corners. So much so that Williams's head of performance Rob Smedley was moved to describe his pole lap as "quite stunning".
"The real difference was in the two Lesmos," Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said. "The minimum speed through the two apexes in the Lesmos was very high."
In fact, Hamilton's minimum speed at the first Lesmo in qualifying was an eye-opening 15km/h faster than Rosberg's.
There was no answer to that.
Pole lap couldn't be seen because of camera break on Lewis' car for the first 2 sectors. Hamilton said Nico was faster in sector 1 because he had a car a few seconds ahead so he was getting a slight tow which meant he was faster down the straights. He did say he was faster into the first chicane but Nico was faster out.
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A lot of the issue for many people is why would a German speak to a Brazilian & Briton in Italian despite a second Brit being in the room and not speaking the language?
This is very rude among friends. In a group of people, even if they've just met each other, it's basic etiquette to speak the language everyone understands even though it might not be the most fluent choice individually. That language more often than not ends up being English. But more to the point, it just proves they aren't friends anymore. Just shows why on the podium Hamilton gave a very awkward answer to the question of "are you friends again ?" by saying "yeah of course, we're team mates, and always will be". What ?!? lol.
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This is very rude among friends. In a group of people, even if they've just met each other, it's basic etiquette to speak the language everyone understands even though it might not be the most fluent choice individually.
Jeeeeeez. You might want to explain that to soooo many people here in the U.S. Pretty common to find people talking in their native language and often you KNOW their talking about you. Especially if you understand a bit of Spanish or Italian.
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This is very rude among friends. In a group of people, even if they've just met each other, it's basic etiquette to speak the language everyone understands even though it might not be the most fluent choice individually.
Jeeeeeez. You might want to explain that to soooo many people here in the U.S. Pretty common to find people talking in their native language and often you KNOW their talking about you. Especially if you understand a bit of Spanish or Italian.
We can easily discuss luck if you are objective about it (Kind of a weird statement but you know what I mean). Rosberg has had one failure (plus one quasi failure in canada) and made three mistakes(Monaco, Spa, Monza), two of which actually benefitted him.
Hamilton has had 4 failures and made two mistakes (Silverstone, Austria) none of which actually benefitted him.
Rosberg benefitted from Hamiltons failures in Germany, Canada, Austria and Australia, and also from his own mistake in Spa and Monaco.
Hamilton benefitted from Rosbergs failure at Silverstone, and his mistake in Monza (although this may have been moot if Hamiltons car had gotten off the line OK, another issue that can be ignored).
So using a scorecard, the first number being mechanical failures\mistakes and second being benefitting from the other drivers mistakes/failures.
Rosberg = -4 (+6)
Hamilton = -6 (+2)
I'm super tired, so if this doesn't make sense... just ignore me!
I didn't realise we had such a strong following in infant schools. The outbreak of "You can't be my friend, you're a troll and I'm not going to play with you" has been deleted.
ps - The people refusing to be friends all smell of elderberry so who'd want to play with them anyway?
Small update on Hamilton´s lucky start, https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/515115134596161536
I´m sure it was not in his plans to actually gamble on when the lights go out but i do wonder if maybe sometimes they do that.
Also if you go back and watch the 2013 Hungary start you can hear some guy in the audience absolutely nailing the lights with one of those gas canisters, forgot the name.
You can hear Beep, Beep, Beeep, Bang (lights go out)
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"
I´m sure it was not in his plans to actually gamble on when the lights go out but i do wonder if maybe sometimes they do that.
Also if you go back and watch the 2013 Hungary start you can hear some guy in the audience absolutely nailing the lights with one of those gas canisters, forgot the name.
You can hear Beep, Beep, Beeep, Bang (lights go out)
I don't think you can predict it; the time is variated and sometimes there's seconds between the times of one start and an other. One guy in the audience being lucky doesn't mean it's a fixed timing. The red lights do have a fixed timing, but the time between red lights popping to green is variated and I actually believe dependant on Charley Whiting's push on a button.
Note: Unfortunately the site does not messure (simulate) the actual latency the computer itself indoces or the time it takes to actually press the mouse button. Looking at the statistics though, the majority of people seem to hover around 200-300ms. I'm 31, and I just managed an average of 208ms (best 189 / worst 220ms) though a couple of weeks back, I was around 250ms on average. I'm inclined to think that either the 50ms time of Hamilton is either wrong or indeed, he was very lucky (he gambled).
Not for nothing, Rosberg's Championship is the only thing that lends credibility to Hamilton's recent success. Otherwise, he'd just be the guy who's had the best car. — bhall II #Team44 supporter
I´m sure it was not in his plans to actually gamble on when the lights go out but i do wonder if maybe sometimes they do that.
Also if you go back and watch the 2013 Hungary start you can hear some guy in the audience absolutely nailing the lights with one of those gas canisters, forgot the name.
You can hear Beep, Beep, Beeep, Bang (lights go out)
I don't think you can predict it; the time is variated and sometimes there's seconds between the times of one start and an other. One guy in the audience being lucky doesn't mean it's a fixed timing. The red lights do have a fixed timing, but the time between red lights popping to green is variated and I actually believe dependant on Charley Whiting's push on a button.
Yes the five lights going on one second apart, but the last part where the 5 lights goes off varies randomly, according to what the computer decides and frankly no one know when it will go off
Below you can see the Th can be randomly delayed
turbof1 wrote:I don't think you can predict it; the time is variated and sometimes there's seconds between the times of one start and an other. One guy in the audience being lucky doesn't mean it's a fixed timing. The red lights do have a fixed timing, but the time between red lights popping to green is variated and I actually believe dependant on Charley Whiting's push on a button.
Yea you can definitely not predict it, but you can gamble on it.
The Hungary guy never predicted it, he just nailed it completely.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"
