2014 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

[McMrocks]

If i understood it correctly the drivers may not exceed a given sector time if the SC deploys. So even if the cars aren't caught by the SC they have to drive slower, so maybe a SC had helped here. BTW, i wonder what these target times look like in the rain. I don't think they use the same as in the dry?

In these times FIA can monitor everything at everytime. It would be easy to set a maximum speed or a minimum sector time. I hope t hey implement this in the future. I have always wondered why they consider a short lift of the accelarator pedal as slowing down. Nowadays the drivers slow down just that much that they can show the FiA that they've done something different to the laps before. This can hardly be considered as driving savely at the crash scene.

[WaikeCU]

Fact was Hamilton didn't complain how undriveable conditions were, since he had worse. You have to consider that Hamilton driving the Mercedes car, probably has the best mechanical grip of the field, knowing how dominant the car is. With that mechanical grip driving in the wet would be 'easier' compared to others and surely with a wet weather specialist like Hamilton, it would be even a joy to drive in these conditions. Massa complained 5 laps before the Bianchi incident. Knowing that the Williams were awful in the rain, maybe it proves why Massa was complaining. I don't doubt Bianchi's driving skills, but if Sutil manages to aquaplane of the track, then surely a Marussia with even less mechanical grip, would be even worse to handle in these conditions. How was Chilton's pace during the race. Did Bianchi beat him massively in pace?

[djos]

How much speed can you actually carry trough that corner in WET condition? I would say no more than 150 kph. But this looks like it was much faster

I don't like to be mean but the video proves the accident is entirely Jules own fault, he was simply going to fast and clearly ignored the double yellow flag zone.

[Manoah2u]

How much speed can you actually carry trough that corner in WET condition? I would say no more than 150 kph. But this looks like it was much faster

I don't like to be mean but the video proves the accident is entirely Jules own fault, he was simply going to fast and clearly ignored the double yellow flag zone.

absolute nonsense, you can't see squad enough from what happened.
yes he carried loads of speed, yet angles can be threacherous and we don't know what caused it. for all that matters he could have had a sudden throttle problem.

calling it "entirely jules own fault" imho is seriously disrespectless for the poor guy.

possibly having own fault, yes, perhaps. 'entirely'? come on.

[Manoah2u]

"#F1 Japanese police is at the track. Confiscating whats left from Bianchis car. No news about his condition yet. "

Tobias gruner said Jap Police confiscated Bianchi's car........doesn't that happen during mortality or when the crashsite is a 'crimezone'???????

[Ganxxta]

I don't like to be mean but the video proves the accident is entirely Jules own fault, he was simply going to fast and clearly ignored the double yellow flag zone.

I don't like to be mean but he was driving as fast or even slower as everyone else at this spot, just look the telemetry a few pages back, I think Ericsson was behind him and he also had already 220kph at this place.

According to Sutil there was a patch of water which was invisible, what was perfectly fine the lap before , in this lap just lead to aquaplaning, and just to be clear, once that happens the driver can't do anything anymore.

I remember in Brazil in the early 2000s where there was a similar water "river", Schumacher and a few others sailed away at the exact same spot, fortunately back then, no one was harmed.

The problem is, how much is "slow down for double yellows"? Is 10kph enough? 20-30?
Currently it seems that all drivers just slow down just a little bit to have evidence on the telemetry that they really see the yellows, but they are not slowing down as much as might be necessary.

I would say the FIA must clarify this to something like "For double yellows slow down at least 50kph for this spot compared to normal/previous lap".

In this case that would be still 160-170kph at this spot, but it might have avoided aquaplaning.

#ForzaJules

[Richard]

"#F1 Japanese police is at the track. Confiscating whats left from Bianchis car. No news about his condition yet. "

Tobias gruner said Jap Police confiscated Bianchi's car........doesn't that happen during mortality or when the crashsite is a 'crimezone'???????

That would have happened routinely in the UK for a serious accident.

[Manoah2u]

That would have happened routinely in the UK for a serious accident.

ok thankx, just curious.

[adrianjordan]

That short sequence when he cleaned his helmet was one of the first things I remembered right after the crash...
I think he has a chance to full recovery although I'm not a doctor...

The truth is we can't be sure at this point. Traumatic Brain Injuries (TBI) are so uncertain that even professionals with all the information probably can't tell us. Compare Massa and Schumacher. Both suffered severe TBI's and both required surgery, but their outcomes are starkly different. Only time will tell us what the outcome for Jules will be.

[Manoah2u]

[Manoah2u]

i'm really really feeling for sutil, too.

that guy must have a trama for life after this. Think he'd need some help, i know I would.
Despite he's nothing to blame, he was the cause of having a recovery vehicle there, that'll be what goes through the
mind, misprojected guilt. and then witnessing first hand such a horrible crash (i haven't seen a crash as gruesome as this, honestly, I know the great late Senna died from his crash but this looks way more severe), and straight seeing the severity of the entire situation, details of physical trauma, blood, etc.

I'd say sutil best sit out next race. I think i couldn't race in russia if i was sutil. my mind couldn't cope.

[Daliracing]

damn those pics Its so shocking
Its a miracle he's still alive

[ScottB]

i'm really really feeling for sutil, too.

that guy must have a trama for life after this. Think he'd need some help, i know I would.
Despite he's nothing to blame, he was the cause of having a recovery vehicle there, that'll be what goes through the
mind, misprojected guilt. and then witnessing first hand such a horrible crash (i haven't seen a crash as gruesome as this, honestly, I know the great late Senna died from his crash but this looks way more severe), and straight seeing the severity of the entire situation, details of physical trauma, blood, etc.

I'd say sutil best sit out next race. I think i couldn't race in russia if i was sutil. my mind couldn't cope.

He seemed rather shaken when interviewed by the BBC, and when asked about Bianchi's crash he paused for a bit before saying 'no comment.' Would be very hard to stand there watching that, and probably blaming himself, such is human nature.

[Hail22]

Is Sutil standing next to what appears to be part of the Ferrari power unit? looks to be pieces from the aluminium block.

[notsofast]

It looks like he was going pretty much in a straight line. And it seems there's a break in the barrier. What would have happened if there were no heavy equipment there? With that speed, would he have gone straight on into where the spectators are standing? I'm just puzzled why there's no barrier there.