Video capturing

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MadMatt
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Joined: 08 Jan 2011, 16:04

Video capturing

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Hello all,

I started 10 years ago to capture videos from TV, VHS, DVDs. At the same I was using a Hauppauge PVR-350 capture card (quite expensive at the time). But recording from it was maxing out my CPU (which wasn't bad, I think it was a P4 2.5Ghz or something like that). I recorded decent stuff from TV, mostly motorsport.

I recorded 1-2 VHS tapes but as I wasn't happy with the final product, I didn't record all of them.

We are now in 2014 and its been years I've been trying to find a way to capture those precious VHS tapes I have in the closet. My old PVR-350 doesn't work under Windows 7 or 64bits systems so I had to buy something else. I thought that with time passing by we would get more advanced stuff to capture our tapes, but I was wrong.

There is of course the professional way which is giving your tapes to some company that will make you pay big bucks for each. No thanks. So I found out that the ultimate non-professional way to do it was to get one of these Canopus ADVC boxes, coupled with a SVHS magneto. Be ready to spend a solid £500 in this tho.

Even if I loved my tapes, I cannot afford this amount of money, so after much hesitation I decided to go for one of these USB recorders that you plug to your VHS magneto and the other end to your computer. Very easy, practical, and cheap (paid £35 for the Diamond VC500 that I bought).

So after a lot of hours of trial and error on VHS capturing/encoding, I finally found something that I am happy with. Check below the examples that I have for you. I have taken the 1983 Nürburgring 1000km race as an example and all these examples have been taken at the exact same frame (except for the DVD version which is impossible to sync with the VHS recording).

The first example is of a fixed image.

1) DVD "In-Car 956" from Dukevideo
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2) Uncompressed (raw) captured VHS file (file are 35GB for 1hour of recording)
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3) Encoded file from the raw VHS recording to fit 1hour on 1 DVD
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Now another example, this time of a moving picture (the sides) with a fixed sight (spectators up front).

1) DVD "In-Car 956" from Dukevideo
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2) Uncompressed (raw) captured VHS file (file are 35GB for 1hour of recording)
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3) Encoded file from the raw VHS recording to fit 1hour on 1 DVD
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The best is to save these pictures on your HDD and then navigate left-right to check the differences.

As you can see it is quite hard to see any difference from the master file and the encoded file. Something that I am very happy with, after a lot of hours of tests.

I am now in the process of finally capturing all the VHS I have (not that much to be honest, but still), waiting for a way some day to get a fast internet connection and a free place to share this material!

So why do I write all this? Well, I am simply offering my services to capture your tapes for free. All what you have to do (besides trusting me), is to send me your tape, and few ££ for me to sent it back to you, and I will capture it using the method I have explained here, and burn that to a DVD that you can of course then save as an image on your computer to have it forever.

Quite frankly I like to collect tapes and I like motorsport History, and like strad here I think, I like to discover new footage, so if I can help the community, all bonus!

:)

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strad
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I have been using my ancient SONY dual VCR/DVD player that has the function to transfer tapes to disc. I then use Pinnacle to edit the disc and save to my computer.
To achieve anything, you must be prepared to dabble on the boundary of disaster.”
Sir Stirling Moss

MadMatt
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Are you happy with the quality? I had a VHS/DVD a decade ago but the quality of the DVD produced wasn't good. :(

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strad
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you've seen it in many of the videos..Most of the loss I see is that many of my tapes are a decade or more old :wink:
To achieve anything, you must be prepared to dabble on the boundary of disaster.”
Sir Stirling Moss

autogyro
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Joined: 04 Oct 2009, 15:03

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Go buy yourself a Cannon 5D mk2 or mk3 and a 3 axis gimble.
Go Pro and 2 axis if you are just taking snaps.

Both vision and sound quality had been completely emaciated since the early 90s.
Quantity over quality has been the ONLY criteria.

AVI (independent frame rendering) is the only quality uncompressed digital video file worth using.
High bit rate WAV sound files the ONLY digital recording media.

After that they compress everything to get more on less.
You end up with ------.

It is a simple matter to play a VHS recorder into a PC and capture the video content.
If you are lucky enough to have Adobe Premier uncluttered from later control upgrades you can import directly into it and edit as you wish.
Of course I still use Widows XP for editing, even 7 has some issues with control over hands on editing.
All updates for XP are available since Windows stopped downloading, you just have to look.
64 bit system of course.
I hate all the processor and memory wasting bells and whistles in later systems.
Apple is OK but hardware limiting and to some extent also software limiting.

MadMatt
MadMatt
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Sorry but I don't see why buying a Canon 5D would improve the quality of the VHS captures. Unless you think that I want to record things and digitalize them after? Then I am afraid you've missed the point of the post which was to convert existing VHS to computer format. ;)