Jules Bianchi recovery - Japan 2014

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I'm a bit sceptic over 92g number. It is only what sensor recorded and means little in isolation. Also the duration of the deceleration means a lot, a very sharp 100g hit is just under being fatal and may actually cause no leng term damage but prolonged (like milliseconds over microseconds) exposure to even lower deceleration may have severe consequences.
Head injury criterion is basically an integral of deceleration over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_injury_criterion

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timbo wrote:I'm a bit sceptic over 92g number. It is only what sensor recorded and means little in isolation. Also the duration of the deceleration means a lot, a very sharp 100g hit is just under being fatal and may actually cause no leng term damage but prolonged (like milliseconds over microseconds) exposure to even lower deceleration may have severe consequences.
Head injury criterion is basically an integral of deceleration over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_injury_criterion
The hospital have used clinical language to describe Bianchi's injury. Severe head injury means severe. He is critical but stable which is what you'd expect for a severe head injury. Jules was unconscious immediately which is not a good sign. This is a sign of the severest of injuries.

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Shakeman wrote:The hospital have used clinical language to describe Bianchi's injury. Severe head injury means severe. He is critical but stable which is what you'd expect for a severe head injury. Jules was unconscious immediately which is not a good sign. This is a sign of the severest of injuries.
I never doubted he is in severe condition. It's just that I've seen news with 92g number stated, and it does not mean much. Recently Mikhail Alyoshin had a crash in INDYCAR with 130 g's and he is out of hospital now and his traumas are mostly bone fractures, etc. Jules apparently is mostly unhurt except DAI.

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Marussia F1 Team have released an update on Jules Bianchi's medical condition on behalf of his family : Sky Sports F1 - Jules Bianchi’s family say the driver remains in a 'critical but stable' condition

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http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3192 ... ew-update/

Updates to come. Sounds positive, let's keep hoping for the best!
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Critical but no longer in artificial coma, that´s an important step forward

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That's some bloody good news for such a darn tragedic situation. Let's hope he'll get a good recovery so he
can actually 'live' again. I don't think he'll ever race again, but i hope he can atleast function like a normal
human being again.
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I don't read much of any good news for Jules himself. He's not in an artificial coma he's just in a coma and in no better a condition. The word critical is the operative word.

The shred of good news is for the family who can now visit their relative in their own country which has to be a massive relief for them.

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Shakeman wrote:I don't read much of any good news for Jules himself. He's not in an artificial coma he's just in a coma and in no better a condition. The word critical is the operative word.

The shred of good news is for the family who can now visit their relative in their own country which has to be a massive relief for them.
The fact that he can breathe for himself is better news. For the family it'll be much better situation with him back from Japan.

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Philippe Streif's comments were that if he comes out of the coma, he's going to be severely disabled.

I'm not sure what the source of that information is, but I don't think the comment was made, just to be made.

If it's in fact true, I can't say that surviving the crash was exactly the best thing. Before some of you take offense to that, remember, quality of life matters more.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30319256

It appears that Bianchi didn't slow enough to avoid losing control prior to the accident. Also, the system ("Failsafe algorithm") designed to over ride the throttle pedal in the event of both brake and throttle being applied together failed to work. When he left the track he applied both brake and throttle and, it appears, the system didn't kill the throttle. It's implied that might have affected the overall dynamics of the crash.

Marussia had a unique brake-by-wire system and it appears to have been incompatible with the failsafe system.

Looks like a combination of driver error and technical failure led to his present serious condition.

Report summary here:
http://www.fia.com/news/accident-panel

Interestingly, bearing mind some of the discussion hereabouts, the following point is made:
It is not feasible to mitigate the injuries Bianchi suffered by either enclosing the driver’s cockpit, or fitting skirts to the crane. Neither approach is practical due to the very large forces involved in the accident between a 700kg car striking a 6500kg crane at a speed of 126kph. There is simply insufficient impact structure on a F1 car to absorb the energy of such an impact without either destroying the driver’s survival cell, or generating non-survivable decelerations.

It is considered fundamentally wrong to try and make an impact between a racing car and a large and heavy vehicle survivable. It is imperative to prevent a car ever hitting the crane and/or the marshals working near it.
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There was water running onto the track at T7 ?!?!? It seems someone needs to do some basic maintenance.

Also the comments about adjusting the calendar to avoid rainy seasons is a rebuke to Bernie, remember when he staged the British GP in April ignoring the expression "April showers"?

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I would like to see graphs with speed, g's and driver inputs for Jules accident as well as his previous lap. I find the impact speed hard to believe as IMO, it doesn't match the frame by frame video estimated speed.

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How very unsurprising. FIA's logic: no accident = anything goes, accident = not sufficiently (well yes obviously). They were selectively lenient towards yellow flag transgressions for a long time thus creating environment for drivers breaking rules and racing each other. Best example: Rosberg's Silverstone win, you break the rules you win the race you're a hero, you slow down - you lose. One from this season with this beautiful quote: "While the telemetry was inconclusive due to very different track conditions between laps, the stewards were satisfied from the video and the driver's explanation that he was sufficiently slow and under control,” Very different conditions, just like Bianchi's crash? Good thing telemetry was conclusive this time, crystal clear it was.

If the outcome determines the fault why didn't they penalise Raikkonen for off track and Massa collision? Clearly Raikkonen did not slow down sufficiently just like Bianchi. At the time Whiting said that every other driver would have done the same which is of course an idiotic explanation but may fit this case. Another grey area on purpose after track limits and collisions but this time with serious consequences. The dumb-downed message from headlines that it's all about a driver is not enough. It's about:
- random incident (truck side)
- conditions (car side)
- environment of racing under yellow flags FIA created
- driver, how much hard to say as weird sudden realisation SC group penalties from USA showed