The Mercedes AMG F1 Team has confirmed that it will unveil its new car, named the F1 W06 Hybrid on Sunday 1 February, the morning before testing commences at Circuito de Jerez in Spain.
Who'd have expected that - the German press says the de facto German national team is the best?Mesteño wrote:According to AMuS, 50 hp gained by Mercedes for next year. Next year car is going to be a beast.
Do you automatically drive faster at night because your engine feels more powerful?! No. You drive at the same speed you normally go. Does your engine pump in more fuel at night? No. The engine only pumps in fuel as you demand more power. In actuality, at night your car will use LESS air volume flow and LESS pumping losses and hence less fuel to give you the same power.trinidefender wrote:When you drive a car on a cold day and it feels more powerful that is because your mass airflow sensor knows that the air is more dense and therefore the ecu knows it can pump more fuel into the combustion chamber and maintain its maximum power fuel to air ratio. Ergo mor power. With this engine formula there is limited fuel. That means that even if the air is cooler than usual the ecu cannot inject more fuel because of the fuel flow limitations. Fuel will always be the limiting factor. Once you surpass the physical mass of air required to get the most power from the set max fuel flow rate then all excess airflow will not increase power.PlatinumZealot wrote:
Trini. I udnerstand all of that. I am saying to you that even with the same fuel injected you will make more horsepower at the crankshaft with cooler air. Have you never driven a car at night? Even for street car the power increase is instantly noticeable - and yes the volume flow of fuel is being injected.
I believe the point here being that there is little to gain, if untrue ... but also little to gain if not.Richard wrote:Who'd have expected that - the German press says the de facto German national team is the best?Mesteño wrote:According to AMuS, 50 hp gained by Mercedes for next year. Next year car is going to be a beast.
All teams and engine manufacturers will say next year's car is better than this year. After all none of us would launch an update for whatever we do in our day jobs which is knowingly worse that the thing we're replacing?
Even in the small picture it is a very universal understanding that hot air is harder to compress. The F1 engines will have losses across the turbocharger and in the cylinders itself.trinidefender wrote:as I have stated already I was never talking about the big picture. Many of the points you made here could very well be true. All I was doing is addressing an incorrect claim made by somebody else. THAT IS ALL.TAG wrote:The discussion that keeps on giving. I think the reason is because we're talking about two sides of the coin. I agree, there is no "gain" in being able to make more power simply because of cooler air. Trini is correct in that. I've mentioned to him however (not an irrelevant response) that there is peripheral gains made because of having that cooler air.
1) smaller cooling ducts
2) smaller intercoolers
3) shorter ducting to duct the air to the compressor.
and a fourth and fifth advantage that I wasn't aware of.
4) reduced turbo lagSkyF1 Writing in Motorsport magazine, Hughes discloses that Mercedes' breakthrough 'innovation is having the turbo's compressor at one end of the engine and the turbine at the other, linked by a long shaft through the vee of the engine'.
The 'trick turbo layout' triggers a series of critical performance benefits. As the air is not travelling through as much pipework, a reduction in turbo lag means less power needs to be be harvested from the car's ERS unit to keep the turbine spooled off throttle. That in turn improves the efficiency of the car, with more power reserved for performance gain and less fuel consequentially used up.
Mercedes' customer teams all have the same advantage. However, because McLaren, Williams and Force India only took delivery of their power units relatively recently, they have had less time to work the layout into their respective car designs. But for the works outfit, the benefits of the W05's innovative layout has proved multifaceted.
5) increase power due to having less energy siphoned to keep the turbo spooled
I understand that you're point is there is no power from the cooler air Trini, but you're not looking at the big picture.
No. The nose in the image would not be legal under the 2015 technical regulations. For instance, it is too short.dmjunqueira wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/63lb6tz5j/NEWNOSE.png
Is this the 2015 car new nose? Looks like Red bull style...
Well noted.Blaze1 wrote:No. The nose in the image would not be legal under the 2015 technical regulations. For instance, it is too short.dmjunqueira wrote:http://s29.postimg.org/63lb6tz5j/NEWNOSE.png
Is this the 2015 car new nose? Looks like Red bull style...
It's me or the little hole inder the main intake is much larger/rectangular/elliptic than the W05 one?dmjunqueira wrote:And at 0:21 of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKDhllq ... 2je3rwE51o
...when the blue hair lady is painting the car, the air inlet "ears" at the sides of the roll hoop look different from last year's car (IMO)...they look more protuberant.
http://s23.postimg.org/5gyea7m7f/ROLLHOOPEARS.png
The livery looks different aswell...the black stripe below the roll hope is different...but it could be only a unfinished paint job.
Funny video by the way.
Richard wrote:Who'd have expected that - the German press says the de facto German national team is the best?Mesteño wrote:According to AMuS, 50 hp gained by Mercedes for next year. Next year car is going to be a beast.
All teams and engine manufacturers will say next year's car is better than this year. After all none of us would launch an update for whatever we do in our day jobs which is knowingly worse that the thing we're replacing?
as there were already a lot of rumors of a 60/70Hp Mercedes PU gain for 2015, I think the 50HP gain which AMUS reports (based on their inside information) is very plausible.
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