superlicence

[astracrazy]

Also Robin Frijns double rookie champion in WSR 3.5 and Renault Eurocup 2.0 wouldn't be eligible. That is really awkward, because the Renault FR 2.0 and WSR 3.5 have proven to be a great stepping stone towards F1. So winning both categories should guarantee you at least 40 points in my opinion.

I think its fair how it is.

I would say Formula Eurocup is quiet a way of F1 though. To make him spend two seasons in a bigger category wouldn't be a bad call.

[SectorOne]

Why the 3 years rule? Isn't a superlicense supposed to judge experience rather than outright speed?

Judging over 3 years ensures consistent performance as opposed to a one season wonder.

Interesting to note that Felix Da Costa and Sam Bird are eligible but after this season of Formula E they are not anymore.

[siskue2005]

Drivers who would not have qualified

Kimi Raikkonen - 5 points (Formula Renault 2.0 UK, 1st)
Jenson Button - 5 points (British Formula 3, 3rd)
Marcus Ericsson - 12 points (GP2, 6th; GP2 8th; GP2, 10th)
Max Verstappen - 20 points (F3 European Championship, 3rd - Also under age)
Fernando Alonso - 25 points (FIA F3000, 4th; Open by Nissan, 1st)
Daniel Ricciardo - 35 points (Formula Renault 3.5, 2nd; British F3, 1st; Formula Renault 2.0, 1st)
Felipe Massa - 35 points (F3000 Euro, 1st; Formula Renault 2.0, 1st)
Sebastian Vettel - 38 points (F3 Euro, 2nd; F3 Euro, 5th)
Carlos Sainz - 38 points (Formula Renault 3.5, 1st; F3 European Championship)

Drivers who would have qualified

Daniil Kvyat - 42 points (GP3, 1st; F. Renault Alps, 1st; F. Renault Euro, 3rd, F. Renault NEC, 1st)
Sergio Perez - 42 points (GP2, 2nd; British F3, 4th)
Valtteri Bottas - 50 points (GP3, 1st; F3 Euro 3rd)
Felipe Nasr - 52 points (GP2, 3rd; GP2, 4th, GP2, 10th)
Romain Grosjean (before debut in 2009) - 60 points (GP2, 4th; F3 Euro, 1st)
Nico Rosberg - 63 points (GP2, 1st; F3 Euro, 4th; F3 Euro 8th)
Pastor Maldonado - 68 points (GP2, 1st; GP2, 6th; GP2, 5th)
Lewis Hamilton - 98 points (GP2, 1st; F3 Euro 1st; F3 Euro, 5th)
Nico Hulkenberg - 110 points (GP2, 1st, F3 Euro 1st, F3 Euro, 3rd)

[Raleigh]

Definitely a move in the right direction, could perhaps use a little tweaking to the values of various series though.

Wouldn't have really hurt any of the talented drivers on that list to have spent another year or two in junior formula, at the same time it would weed out the no-hopers like Ericsson or the "talented but could really use another year in an intermediate formula" drivers like Verstappen.

[astracrazy]

Drivers who would not have qualified

Kimi Raikkonen - 5 points (Formula Renault 2.0 UK, 1st)
Jenson Button - 5 points (British Formula 3, 3rd)
Marcus Ericsson - 12 points (GP2, 6th; GP2 8th; GP2, 10th)
Max Verstappen - 20 points (F3 European Championship, 3rd - Also under age)
Fernando Alonso - 25 points (FIA F3000, 4th; Open by Nissan, 1st)
Daniel Ricciardo - 35 points (Formula Renault 3.5, 2nd; British F3, 1st; Formula Renault 2.0, 1st)
Felipe Massa - 35 points (F3000 Euro, 1st; Formula Renault 2.0, 1st)
Sebastian Vettel - 38 points (F3 Euro, 2nd; F3 Euro, 5th)
Carlos Sainz - 38 points (Formula Renault 3.5, 1st; F3 European Championship)

Drivers who would have qualified

Daniil Kvyat - 42 points (GP3, 1st; F. Renault Alps, 1st; F. Renault Euro, 3rd, F. Renault NEC, 1st)
Sergio Perez - 42 points (GP2, 2nd; British F3, 4th)
Valtteri Bottas - 50 points (GP3, 1st; F3 Euro 3rd)
Felipe Nasr - 52 points (GP2, 3rd; GP2, 4th, GP2, 10th)
Romain Grosjean (before debut in 2009) - 60 points (GP2, 4th; F3 Euro, 1st)
Nico Rosberg - 63 points (GP2, 1st; F3 Euro, 4th; F3 Euro 8th)
Pastor Maldonado - 68 points (GP2, 1st; GP2, 6th; GP2, 5th)
Lewis Hamilton - 98 points (GP2, 1st; F3 Euro 1st; F3 Euro, 5th)
Nico Hulkenberg - 110 points (GP2, 1st, F3 Euro 1st, F3 Euro, 3rd)

The thing is a few of the big names who would not have benefited from a lot more F1 test time before they got the drive, so in a way were ready once they stepped into an f1 car? Or at least had some experience. Now we don't have that. Its interesting the list includes 4 world champions though. Where the list of woulds includes 1, Lewis (who also got some decent test time).

Maybe it shows that regardless of the rules they come up with, decent test time is what is still required - but we all know that hence the rules. But you get my point . We are pus*yfooting around the real requirement

[Moose]

The thing is a few of the big names who would not have benefited from a lot more F1 test time before they got the drive, so in a way were ready once they stepped into an f1 car? Or at least had some experience. Now we don't have that. Its interesting the list includes 4 world champions though. Where the list of woulds includes 1, Lewis (who also got some decent test time).

Maybe it shows that regardless of the rules they come up with, decent test time is what is still required - but we all know that hence the rules. But you get my point . We are pus*yfooting around the real requirement

To be fair, one of the requirements introduced by these new rules is decent test time. They need to log at least 300km, at racing speed, in a modern F1 car.

[pob]

Interestingly, there may be some new opportunities for young drivers to get cheap F1 testing time to qualify for a superlicence: there are two new constructors building f1 cars, not to enter the championship, but purely to provide testing opportunities. linky

[siskue2005]

That is a very nice business opportunity
I guess they will buy an f1 engine from Merc or Renault or Ferrari
They could charge the young drivers money, but would definitely be cheaper than the real teams
Personally if I had money I would invest in such a venture

[DaveKillens]

I appreciate some aspects of this change in licensing, but there is something still wrong with a system that would have excluded Ricciardo.

So now there is a road map for any prospective Formula One driver to follow. Any series on the path will suffer a shift in financial planning, more money will go to those on the fast track to Formula One, lesser teams will receive less. Any series not on that list or not earning enough points quick enough (e.g. Formula Renault 3.5) will suffer a loss of quality drivers and thus money.

[RicME85]

Renault are going to speak to the FIA about the scoring of FR3.5 and FR2.0