Alonso's Crash

[CptPeanut]

Can anyone (medically trained?) comment on the sedation for the helicopter ride? To me this seems like a serious thing to do for apparently no reason?

I checked with my other half (who is medically trained) and it is common to sedate a patient for transport if there is risk of a spinal injury. This is to not only keep them as still as possible but also to minimise undue stress (it's flipping noisy in the back of an air ambulance).

[Andres125sx]

It´s funny to read how some people think crashing with a concrete wall at 150kmh is a slow speed crash

With a concrete wall even a third of that, a 50kmh crash, can be a disaster. Obviously the angle of the impact play a huge role, but even with a low angle a concrete wall always causes very high decelerations, and concussions are caused by decelerations, so I don´t see how Alonso´s unconsciusness can be considered odd. Same for staying 48h in hospital, that´s standard



It´s the lack of info provided by Alonso or the team what make me nervous...

[RicME85]

Probably because we see big shunts at race weekends and the drivers are up and about straight away.
Even if they do go to the hospital for checks the don't hang around.

[lkocev]

Because you still dont understand the joke.

That's because its not a funny joke. Alonso put his car into a concrete wall and got a concussion, I fail to see anything funny about that.

What seems most strange to me is that the suspension arms don't seem significantly damaged. The McLaren report said that the upright and axle were damaged, surely the suspension arms are not that robust that the upright can be damaged but arms are not completely broken? I would have expected at the very least that the front suspension arms would have been broken from the impact.

[santos]

It´s funny to read how some people think crashing with a concrete wall at 150kmh is a slow speed crash

With a concrete wall even a third of that, a 50kmh crash, can be a disaster. Obviously the angle of the impact play a huge role, but even with a low angle a concrete wall always causes very high decelerations, and concussions are caused by decelerations, so I don´t see how Alonso´s unconsciusness can be considered odd. Same for staying 48h in hospital, that´s standard



It´s the lack of info provided by Alonso or the team what make me nervous...

Yes, that it's true. But i don't think that for a F1 car, a 50kmh crash would be a disaster. 150kmh is a slow speed when you compare with other accidents.

[Mesteño]

According to Flavio Briatore, Alonso can't remember the incident.

[Del]

I don't want to sound like a fan of conspiracy theories,I just want to ask you a few questions.

http://imgur.com/a/BJfWo

First photo - that's the steering wheel turned right,and it's visable...if I'm not mistaken,so where is Alonso's hand?

Here's an onboard,to make a refrence about the hand positions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBuU6eo5AQ

Also ,this might be just a coincidence,but on pic 7,isn't the steering wheel at the same position?

I do believe that the wind theory is plausible ,and a good explanation for the crash.

And in advance - I do believe he is capable of making mistakes (to the list above from Alonso Fan, I can add Monaco 2010,where a mistake saw him crashing and cost him the qualy,so he had to start from the pits). But when I see the pics from this crash in the mclaren,and the exact place where the crash happened....the reaction on behalf of Alonso(no counter steering) ...I do have some questions unanswered.

+ adding this to the whole story that is adding further confusion to me.

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What seems most strange to me is that the suspension arms don't seem significantly damaged. The McLaren report said that the upright and axle were damaged, surely the suspension arms are not that robust that the upright can be damaged but arms are not completely broken? I would have expected at the very least that the front suspension arms would have been broken from the impact.

[Redragon]

You guys love to grief negativity and pain.
I am leaving the discussion after this message, you have the official announcements, pictures, etc.... to say He is fine.
He has suffered an impact of 30g, lights g alarm went off so normal procedure is to be sent him at hospital for 48 hours observation.
He might have been sedated because concussion and felling dizzy, I am sure there are other reasons that just spinal injury.
So please stop the speculations

[Bomber_Pilot]

This seems quite plausible.

[Redragon]

This seems quite plausible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igIvPDDyRAA#t=73

No offence but have been posted, one or two pages ago

[Richard]

Oh dear. Taki Inoue made a self deprecating joke and now we have Alonso fans in full outcry to prove the joke is factually incorrect.

Now it's time to move on.

[Phil]

Yes, that it's true. But i don't think that for a F1 car, a 50kmh crash would be a disaster. 150kmh is a slow speed when you compare with other accidents.

Of course it can be. It just depends on how and what you hit at that speed and how much of that impact acts on the driver itself. In most cases, a F1 car absorbs a lot of that force, as does the confinement of the track where a car might skid over a gravel pit (and lose speed) until eventually hitting a soft tyre barrier. Hitting a concrete wall however is something entirely different as it doesn't absorb any force at all. My take is that with the trajectory Alonso had while hitting that wall, he bounced off with minimal damage to the car (= nearly nothing was absorbed) which resulted in the high G reading and resulted in the quite substantial impact he suffered a concussion from.

[lotus7]

It´s funny to read how some people think crashing with a concrete wall at 150kmh is a slow speed crash

I hit a wall, with a single row of tyres in front , 5 degrees from head on , data logger said impact speed was 39kmh and 2.4G .
Immediate reaction was aggitation mainly because I damaged the car , no more racing that season. Within 10 mins vision was very blurry , neck was getting stiff and sore. Was taken to ER , got a drip, all vital stats normal, neck X-ray showed no damage, released an hour later .
Vision cleared up properly after 10 days , neck and head aches cleared up after 2 to 3 weeks

And to say 150kph is slow ?

[George-Jung]

Because you still dont understand the joke.

That's because its not a funny joke. Alonso put his car into a concrete wall and got a concussion, I fail to see anything funny about that.

If you are not able to spot the humor in that joke, than it is time for you to move on..

[WaikeCU]

Because you still dont understand the joke.

That's because its not a funny joke. Alonso put his car into a concrete wall and got a concussion, I fail to see anything funny about that.