Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

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They currently are, yes.

However, we should not ignore how the prospects are for improvement. If they had a reliable engine but down on packaging and power, they'd be much more stuck because peformance development is very restricted. Reliability is not however.

Assuming of course their true pace, which we haven't yet seen due said issues, is competitive.
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Richard wrote:
bonjon1979 wrote:So let me get this straight, they're a year ahead but still three seconds a lap behind...
Swings & roundabouts. In some areas they could be ahead, but in others they're behind. Net result (as you say) is several second off the pace.
Perhaps he means that he expected them start at the position the other teams were at last year for this year but as their packaging is equally as neat as the best teams this year they have in effect leap frogged that first year of more ungainly concepts and jumped straight to this year's tech, albeit less reliably.
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kooleracer wrote:
dren wrote:All things point in the right direction. A much improved aero design, lead by ex-Red Bull designer. A Honda PU that is packaged extremely well, and rumored to have the power the Mercedes had last year. Two top drivers. Once reliability is sorted, I expect the same that Scarbs is.
Both Renault and Ferrari have more bhp then the Merc 2014 PU. Looking at the times that is quite clear to see. So being on par with the Mercedes 2014 PU isn't enough. F1 is fast moving business last years numbers are obsolete. I hope for the sake of Honda and McLaren the their PU is at least on par with this years Renault PU otherwise this season will be a complete write off.
They do? I read the Ferrari gained about 80hp and the Renault about 30hp. Was the Renault that close to last year's Mercedes? The Ferrari had the most to gain, and that was in the sustain mode, they were closer in the one lap all out mode.
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kooleracer wrote:
dren wrote:All things point in the right direction. A much improved aero design, lead by ex-Red Bull designer. A Honda PU that is packaged extremely well, and rumored to have the power the Mercedes had last year. Two top drivers. Once reliability is sorted, I expect the same that Scarbs is.
Both Renault and Ferrari have more bhp then the Merc 2014 PU. Looking at the times that is quite clear to see. So being on par with the Mercedes 2014 PU isn't enough. F1 is fast moving business last years numbers are obsolete. I hope for the sake of Honda and McLaren the their PU is at least on par with this years Renault PU otherwise this season will be a complete write off.
Tyres are faster and different track conditions... Different chassis.. nearly everything is different. It is still not known if the Ferrari is more powerful than 2014 Mercedes.
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Amus:

Very nice picture of changes to FW:

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Amus:

First picture that I have seen the Monkey Seat from rear:

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mclaren111 wrote:Amus:

Very nice picture of changes to FW:

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/McL ... 848589.jpg
Plus a little bit modified cascade
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Technical World of F1 2015 with ScarbsF1...MP4-30(After 28:45)

http://www.spreaker.com/user/f1_fans_up ... h-scarbsf1
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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:Technical World of F1 2015 with ScarbsF1...MP4-30(After 28:45)

http://www.spreaker.com/user/f1_fans_up ... h-scarbsf1
Both already posted two pages ago! :D

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We've got double posting in here and the Honda PU thread.

Lets keep this one focussed on on the car. I'll moved recent posts to the PU thread ... although not too many or that thread will get confusing!

Lets try to keep to car talk only here from now on please.

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i think FW changes is for a test of air flow to B-duct....not for DF levels

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Jenson Button:

"The other thing is the driveability, that's really impressed me.

"It's something you are always worried about as it is the unknown, but we have made massive steps.

"That is the area I am most happy about with the engine.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117927
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What is the purpose of the little "nip" on the top flap - right on the edge - right hand picture (new wing) ?

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