Are you worried that people will like IndyCar? You (and the blogger incidentally enough) seem to be bending over backwards to get people to agree with your negative sentiment. If you spend so much energy trying to convince people that IndyCar is doomed (when crapwagon has been doing that for the past 10 years) maybe you should stop paying attention to IndyCar and what people who watch it considers it.'cossie wrote:http://www.autoextremist.com/fumes1/201 ... nable.html
Linky works now when chip says it's one big FUBAR and Miles is a idiot it's pretty much a cluster F###
So the series now isn't better than 2000 IRL? It's not better than 90s CART when Mansell went over but it's a lot better than 2000 IRL. Whether it's better than ChampCar is debatable because there were no ovals in most of ChampCar, the ChampCar grid was of questionable quality with the exception of Bourdais, Power, Wilson, Tracy, Carpentier, Glock, and maybe Jani and Monteiro. The field wasn't close at all and if you weren't in a top team you mostly just toot around 2 seconds off pace. And the cars still had stick shifters and were gradually becoming dinosaurs (even if they looked good for their time and were much better and faster than IR03 cars. IR03 cars suck, period). Honestly, if you were to watch the old ChampCar races versus the race now I'd rather watch the racing now.cossie wrote:I really don't care if you agree or not, however when people say this is a series that is better than it ever was are deluded. We had something that was great racing, great series and that was flushed down the drain. For any saying that IMS and the Human family have been responsible stewards and are the answer are deluded. For this series to grow IMS needs the 500 as a stand alone race. Find someone else to run the series at the other venues. BTW crap wagon site blows
Quite. Ironically, St Pete is usually a crap race every year, and the same moaning is had every 12 months before the rest of the season throws up the wacky races that we love and adore.turbof1 wrote:Please try to stay objective. Are we really burning the series down after just one race, which was not that bad at all? Atleast give it a few races, including ones on small and big ovals, to objectively judge the new platform.
Hopefully this coming year there will be some good international tracks that Miles can find for IndyCar to make the opener a little more positive.Jonnycraig wrote:Quite. Ironically, St Pete is usually a crap race every year, and the same moaning is had every 12 months before the rest of the season throws up the wacky races that we love and adore.turbof1 wrote:Please try to stay objective. Are we really burning the series down after just one race, which was not that bad at all? Atleast give it a few races, including ones on small and big ovals, to objectively judge the new platform.
Actually out of 16 rounds (1 double header) there's only 6 ovals including the 500. IndyCar might actually lose an oval next year (Fontana) and put it to 5 so it's pretty much looking similar to a CART schedule.djos wrote:I haven't seen much "IndyCar" racing since CART imploded (Hope you rot in hell Tony George!), is there much decent road course racing or is it boring still like NASCAR with 2 token road course races per season?
I will keep uploading IndyCar races and sharing it in this thread.djos wrote:Ok thanks for the info, now i just need to find a source as i don't think it's on Aussie tv.
you have lost way better racing than f1, for instance, then, imhodjos wrote:I haven't seen much "IndyCar" racing since CART imploded (Hope you rot in hell Tony George!), is there much decent road course racing or is it boring still like NASCAR with 2 token road course races per season?
I wonder if unofficial laptimes were mentioned somewhere. Given how much downforce these cars now have(likely quite more than F1), I think they wouldn't be far from F1, albeit having only 700HP and no DRS.Cuky wrote: Those images are 3D renders...but that car was already tested at CoTA earlier this year. Here is a picture of it on the track in camouflage livery
I doubt that considering the current FW is a multi element monster with very high AoA and should generate way more downforce than even F1's. Can't see the rear of Indycar's being down on GP2(or F1) either. And tbh, these cars even look(when cornering) faster than F1slizardfolk wrote:And? IndyCar has more horsepower than GP2 and GP2 still has more downforce than IndyCarcossie wrote: They increased down force 25 percent with only 650,bhp.
