Red Bull RB11 Renault

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/?partner=opera15-other[/tweet]

this is what happens to me everytime!?
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hitco? Wasn't original information carbon industrie? :?

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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:https://twitter.com/?partner=opera15-other

this is what happens to me everytime!?
Have you accidentally clicked "Disable BBCode" in post options?

astracrazy
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What at the advantages and disadvantages of this? I'd guess a disadvantage would be that to make design adjustment they would have to re-make the whole thing....

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Probably the easiest way is on the actual tweet click the 3 dots (or more) the select "copy link to tweet" right click the highlighted link and copy then paste the result into the tweet /tweet BB code from above.

Try a few practises by doing the link but just hit "preview" instead of "Submit". Once you know you have it sorted you can go from there...
https://twitter.com/vickychandhok/statu ... 2195977216 Apologies if this is the wrong place for this, please delete if so...

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GoranF1
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Mattchu wrote:Probably the easiest way is on the actual tweet click the 3 dots (or more) the select "copy link to tweet" right click the highlighted link and copy then paste the result into the tweet /tweet BB code from above.

Try a few practises by doing the link but just hit "preview" instead of "Submit". Once you know you have it sorted you can go from there...

https://twitter.com/vickychandhok/statu ... 2195977216

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this, please delete if so...
I understood the problem,you need to go direct to tweet source and then copy link...if i copy it on my timeline where someone retweet it or favorit it then link doesnt work here.
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https://twitter.com/f1writers/status/586477479944187905 Kvyat's RB broken front wing / nosecone

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Not following the RB too closely but is that Front Wing without the Hole in the Endplate new? (the bottom one)

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Thunders wrote:Not following the RB too closely but is that Front Wing without the Hole in the Endplate new? (the bottom one)

http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Red ... 856326.jpg
http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Red ... 856420.jpg
Yes it is. Totally new design actually. I can only really spot one or two similarities and those have to do with how the wing is constructed to reduce interference drag and skin friction drag.

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yeah, most labelled it as just a new endplate, but its actually a new design that follows a bit merc and ferraris route, before the mainplaine curved at the end leading up to the endplate, now its curl, flat and then endplate

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for comparison
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and mercs extreme solution
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Thunders wrote:Not following the RB too closely but is that Front Wing without the Hole in the Endplate new? (the bottom one)

http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Red ... 856326.jpg
http://img2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Red ... 856420.jpg
That's a big change actually! Previously the wing elements stretched very close to the endplate, to the point that:
-The first element acted as support to the endplate
-The second, thirth and fourth element were place in the now absent endplate slots
-The fifth and sixth elements were integrated into the endplate

They have reduced all the elements a bit in length to seperate them from the endplate. Red Bull clearly are departing from the Peter Prodromou philosophy and converging towards the more mainstream front wing concepts.
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They are moving from an upwash design to an outwash design. I wouldn't be surprised if the cascades change to a Merc style soon. To me the change makes a lot of sense. An upwash design is fine back then when the front wings were the full width of the tyres, but since reduction in width last year, the flow off the end of the wing should see much higher blockage from the front tyres, which makes an outwash design a more logical design choice for me.

If you watched Scarbs latest video where he talks about Merc's newest front wing, he mentions the long lead times to design and make one, making me think this change wasn't a recent decision. It might be they revaluated their front wing philosophy after PP left and realised maybe Vettel's struggles with the car is partially contributed by the rear end ingesting dirty air off the front wheel wake which is insufficiently controlled by an upwash design. Else, I don't see a reason why they would totally switch philosophies if the upwash design is sufficient.