Gullwing doors don't look Mercedes copies as Lambo doors do?

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Gullwing doors don't look Mercedes copies as Lambo doors do?

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Maybe because they were introduced so long ago (back 1952 with the Mercedes Benz 300 SL) so only very old folks (75 year old+ or so) remember when they were novelty.
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And they weren't used in Mercs until recently (2010 Merc SLS).
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But during those 60 years they were used by some other -bizarre- cars:
Production cars
Autozam AZ-1 (Suzuki Cara)
Bricklin SV-1
Bristol Fighter
DeLorean DMC-12
De Tomaso Mangusta (engine compartment)
Gumpert Apollo
Hofstetter Turbo
Isdera Commendatore 112i
Melkus RS 1000
Melkus RS 2000
Mercedes-Benz 300SL
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
Pagani Huayra
(NSU) Thurner RS
Tesla Model X
Quant E
Quant F

And kit cars
AMT Piranha
Bradley GTII
Dare DZ
Eagle SS Mk1
Elite Enterprises Laser 917, inspired by the Porsche 917
Fiberfab Aztec 7, a loose replica of the Alfa Romeo Carabo concept car (which has scissor doors).
Fiberfab Caribee/Banshee
Innes Lee Scorpion K19
Pelland Sports
Replicar Cursor
RPB GT
Burton Car Company hardtop
Siva S160 Spyder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gull-wing_door

Compare this to Scissor doors (Lambo doors)
First used in a production car in the Lamborghini Countach in 1974
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And then continuously used in the Diablo, Reventon and Aventador.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissor_doors

Since Lamborghini has continuously used scissor doors for the last 41 years, they had become their trademark.

So Spyker and Koenigsegg just look as copycats. Even though the later has a different door mechanism, that just looks Lambo-door to the non-nerd.

By some reason butterfly doors just don't look as good as Gullwing or Lambo doors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_doors
Some of them still look quite Lambo-doors copycats to the casual observer
SSC Aero
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Sliding doors hold promise, specially if automated (with an electric motor)
But I suspect they will rattle quite badly, just as those on minivans do.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_door_(vehicle)

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The Z1's doors didn't rattle particularity, at least when new. Of course it was a bit hard to tell due to the NVH 101 screw up with the engine mount tuning, far too close to wheelhop.

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I also have no idea what you meant to say in your thread tittle

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flynfrog wrote:I also have no idea what you meant to say in your thread tittle
Sorry for the confusion due to limited character availability.

I meant
While Lambo doors on non Lamborghini cars look copycat
Gullwing doors on non Mercedes Benz cars don't look like cheap copies at all.

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I'm not really a fan of the Lambo style of door, probably because I'v seen it used on far to many cars

Bradley GTII, Bricklin SV-1, and DeLorean
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flynfrog wrote:I also have no idea what you meant to say in your thread tittle

Agreed, the "tittle" is utterly incoherent to the fringe of brain hurting..
Kindly do a proof reading review next time..

& anyhow, all those doors are about stylistic gimmickry - with safety issues ( egress in event of crash inversion)..
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

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(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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J.A.W. wrote:
flynfrog wrote:I also have no idea what you meant to say in your thread tittle

Agreed, the "tittle" is utterly incoherent to the fringe of brain hurting..
Kindly do a proof reading review next time..

& anyhow, all those doors are about stylistic gimmickry - with safety issues ( egress in event of crash inversion)..
Oh thank god it's not just my brain having a slow start to the day And it is in fact gibberish.
Thank you to God for making me an Atheist - Ricky Gervais.

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J.A.W. wrote:all those doors are about stylistic gimmickry - with safety issues ( egress in event of crash inversion)..
The 300SL's doors, like the race car it was based on, were a solution for the tubular frame work. (Later, they opted to sacrifice weight efficiency, and switch to the roadster configuration.)

But yes, all of the others were a gimmick.

As for safety, the 300SL's windows can be kicked out. The people who race them today suggest kicking out the rear window if you're too big for the sides. The SLS has hinges on its doors that blow out if the car rolls over, so you can just knock the whole door off.

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Thanks for that info C.

Those ex-Nazi era German engineers came up with some interesting ideas/solutions, such as explosive bolts..
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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bdr529 wrote:I'm not really a fan of the Lambo style of door, probably because I'v seen it used on far to many cars

Bradley GTII, Bricklin SV-1, and DeLorean
http://www.az-d.org/3gulls.jpg

ehm, those aren't Lambo doors

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No, for sure - they are not, nor do they even seem to ah "...look...as Lambo doors do?"

This thread will really have to be a prime entry in the 'Stupidest Thread Tittle' comp..
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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PistoniRoventi wrote:
bdr529 wrote:I'm not really a fan of the Lambo style of door, probably because I'v seen it used on far to many cars

Bradley GTII, Bricklin SV-1, and DeLorean
http://www.az-d.org/3gulls.jpg

ehm, those aren't Lambo doors
Sorry I should have mentioned that the cars in the photo I posted are Gullwing style
I really didn't think that some one would confuses the 2 types

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im having flashbacks to early 2000's where every 'tuner' had lambo doors.

Honda civic? lambo doors
ford focus? lambo doors
Toyota Camry? Lambo doors.(probably)

everyone of them in garishly bright colours with a hundred speakers.