What caused Hamilton's tyre to delaminate?

[ben_watkins]

Any news from Bridgestone as to why the tyre delaminated on Hamilton's car? Something to do with his speed/line in that triple apex left hander? Or simply bad luck him having a tyre with manufacturing problems?

[manchild]

Piece of CF Massa ripped off from the top of his helmet and threw away!

It was extremely unsporting and dangerous thing to do. Hope I'm not the only one who saw it.

[FLC]

You seriously mean that, MC?

Anyway, BS ruled out the reason being debris:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61860.

"It was delamination caused by excessive 'chunking'," Hamashima told autosport.com. "Lewis was suffering from heavy understeer in Turn Eight and in order to correct that, he was turning the steering wheel a bit more.

"This produced the 'chunking', which then got hardened as he braked for Turn Nine. It seems that there was an (unexplained) extra force applied to where the chunk was, and this delaminated the tyre."

[modbaraban]

It was extremely unsporting and dangerous thing to do. Hope I'm not the only one who saw it.

I assume Massa had to put it in his backpack

[zac510]

If that wasn't sarcasm then manchild has a screw so far loose it has fallen out (onto the road in the path of a McLaren).

[manchild]

I'm not familiar what FIA regulations say about it but to throw a piece of CF on circuit knowing that you won't pick it up because one of the 21 cars that follow you will pick it up is shameful. It was Massa's problem, not problem of any other competitor and what Massa did was get rid of problem by causing the problem and potential danger to all other competitors. Sorry but he could have waited till pitstop or slowed down aside and throw it in grass or something.

His sportsmanship=0.

If you disagree please explain me how piece of CF broken in collision is dangerous if lies on circuit and how and why the one Massa ripped off and throw on circuit isn't?

[zac510]

You're assuming there was an intention to harm others. Nobody said it wasn't dangerous, either.

[manchild]

You're assuming there was an intention to harm others. Nobody said it wasn't dangerous, either.

No no, I'm not assuming intention, just making an observation. I'm not saying it was deliberate since it got loose by itself but getting rid of it like that was unsporting and dangerous. Massa knew it but acted selfishly.

[FLC]

Manchild,
We are all concerned about safety, but I think this is a little bit too much. You really expect a driver to wait with this kind of problem until he pits? Massa said it was making his head go high up under acceleration and down low under braking and so his concentration was hurt. Can you tell us which is more dangerous, that little piece of CF on track, which we have in almost every race, or him losing control of his car because of this, say at turn 8?

Slow down aside and throw it on the grass? Are you serious? Was he supposed to signal too? How far in the grass was he supposed to throw it so that it would be safe enough?

This is racing, these things happen, and if the other competitors can't deal with it (although I'm sure they can, none of them complained), then they don't belong there.

[manchild]

I am serious. Yes - a little piece of CF can puncture tyre or lead to its explosion causing serious crash with injuries and fatalities of drivers, marshals and spectators. No one is saying that it must happen that way but when you know it can happen than you act responsibly to prevent it.

What Massa did reminds of street cop finding a loaded gun on the street saying "My shift is almost over and if I bring this gun to station I'll have to write a report and stay longer at work so I'll just kick it aside and someone from next shift will find it...".

Pure selfishness and lack of any concern for safety.

Massa is a spoiled crybaby and he'll remain like that forever. Good driver - yes, respect worthy sportsman - no (he learned from the best).

[modbaraban]

I imagine Kovalainen (or was it Fisi?) coming back top pick up his rim cover that fell off.

So if Massa should have gone off to the grass to throw it away:

- he was supposed to do it at full speed
- slow down/stop causing a yellow flag situation

underline the right option.

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I can't see the difference in being biased ProFerrari or AntiFerrari

[Saribro]

Right, so what's the excuse for not bashing McLaren, as they sent Hamilton back on track after his flat with a piece of front wing endplate clearly dangling (and it did come off on track...).

[zac510]

self moderated sorry mc, it was a bit harsh

[Belatti]

I think Manchild watches too much Speed Racer where rivals threw nails and oil to the M5 or "Los autos locos" (Please someone translate this, was the wacky races???) where Pier Nodoyuna (in the Superferrari ) was first, but always steped aside of the road to make some diabolic cheating plan and screw Penelope Glamour and friends.

Maybe Hamilton should have buttons to jump debris like the M5 had in the steering wheel, or transform in to a plane like "Professor Locovich"

PS: Sorry MC, I couldn´t avoid it !

[mx_tifoso]

It was extremely unsporting and dangerous thing to do. Hope I'm not the only one who saw it.

I assume Massa had to put it in his backpack

Or maybe someone can buy Massa a little pouch to keep in his cockpit incase he has anymore CF to throw around.

Who has time to think about what a little CF piece will do when your'e racing? You just rip it off and thow it away regardless of the speed your'e traveling. Pulling aside is definately not the best option to take, but then again MC would have liked for Massa to do that would'nt he.

Racing is racing.

BTW, did Manchild provide a similar "safety parade" when MS had a puncture at last years Brazilian GP