Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[Jef Patat]

Watching the video above, have they converted back to the Melbourne spec engine or just turned the power down to the Melbourne spec level?

Indeed, I also wonder how we should interpret these words. What also pops my mind: did they run the Melbourne spec in Melbourne, or did they turn the Melbourne spec down in Melbourne? I think that makes more sense, they are now driving what they should have driven in Melbourne?

[JimClarkFan]

He was 8 tenths to 1.2 seconds faster in FP3 so there is much to be optimistic about.

Still 2.1 down on ultimate pace.

They are clearly making progress which is good, but it isn't coming nearly as fast as mclaren has suggested it would.

My hope is that they are turning down the power to learn about the new parts, presumably they would rather have data than a blown engine.... Hopefully anyway

[godlameroso]

They're certainly missing something, it's almost as if there's no KERS

[PlatinumZealot]

He was 8 tenths to 1.2 seconds faster in FP3 so there is much to be optimistic about.

he wasn't,he was 3 tents slower actually!?

At comparable times I mean, not the final results.

[Hail22]

Here's an extreme close of up of the MP4-30 Schnoz (nose)

[ringo]

The chassis didnt look bad today in the changine conditions. Alonso and Button were actually doing fine. It was until the track dried up and the other cars were able to use more power that the mclarens dropped to the bottom of the pile.
Honda really need to sort out their engine. They simply should have copied mercedes. We still don't know what their concept is, but it seems to be better in theory than it is on the track. Though i'm more inclined to think it's their ERS more so than the ICE that is holding them back.

[trinidefender]

There is an image floating around somewhere on this forums or the other one, or in fact in some archive somewhere, that shows the new bargeboards with a horizontal flap on it. Does anybody have this pic or can post a link to it? I saw it and am trying to find it again and it is driving me crazy!

[henra]

We still don't know what their concept is, but it seems to be better in theory than it is on the track.

They can say hello to Renault on this one.

Though i'm more inclined to think it's their ERS more so than the ICE that is holding them back.

As strange as it is but Renault seems to be struggling mostly with the ICE. Knocking seems to be the real Elephant in the Room and even Merc seems to be held back by this from dominating even worse. Only Ferrari shot themselves in the foot last year by compromising ERS for aero.
My suspicion is, it is a bit of both. The tight packaging indicates they might have pursued last year's approach by Ferrari and compromised ERS for packaging. However, they seem to be lacking more power than did Ferrari last year. If you combine the failures of Renault and Ferrari of last year though, (lacking ICE power due to knocking plus compromised ERS) you would end up pretty much where Honda looks to be at currently.
Looking at the progress of Renault and Ferrari, respectively this Year, ERS seems to be easier to fix than ICE.

[mclaren111]

Not all the updates made it to Austria:

The changes - including the short nose shown above - were part of a major aero update which will be completed at the next round at Silverstone, with a totally new front wing, new sidepods with vertical vanes, new mirrors and a lighter chassis.

Today is testing only

[mclaren111]

McLaren MP4-30 front wing detail, note the sensor mounted on the endplate, likely measuring how the wing tilts - See more at: http://somersf1.blogspot.com/2015/06/au ... FhyjO.dpuf

[trinidefender]

Found the pics. Pic of the new bargeboards with a horizontal flap attached to it.



Here is a (very grainy) pic of (some of) the rear diffuser. Isn't much but best I could find. It looks like it has a double gurney flap above the diffuser (technically they aren't even gurney flaps as there is a space between the top of the diffuser and the flap).

[vantage87]

[FrukostScones]

Both cars whit unspecified exhaust failiure.
Perfect reason to change it from log to normal on reability reasons.

Or they can present to FIA and other teams what is with their log style exhaust that doesnt work so they can fix it on reliability grounds. If fix proves to be impossible there are tokens to be spent on tubular exhaust manifolds.

AMUS said exhausts were just kind of made up reason for retiring the cars;
both car would not have been able, with normal racing pace, to finish the race, they would have ran out of fuel... (rember ALO was told to save fuel excessively... "I don't want, I don't want...")

Canda race

[vantage87]

Found the pics. Pic of the new bargeboards with a horizontal flap attached to it.

http://f1.f-e-n.net/images/f1/2015/2015 ... 4R7462.jpg

Here is a (very grainy) pic of (some of) the rear diffuser. Isn't much but best I could find. It looks like it has a double gurney flap above the diffuser (technically they aren't even gurney flaps as there is a space between the top of the diffuser and the flap).

http://f1.f-e-n.net/images/f1/2015/2015 ... 9P2597.jpg

Rear diffuser shots

[trinidefender]

Looking at the nose on the top pic (alonso) it looks like this was the point when he was running the old bodywork and parts (judging by what looks like what little I can see of the nose). If so then this is the old diffuser. The bottom pic is of button who ran the old bodywork all weekend (I don't know about the race as I couldn't watch it) and therefore the old diffuser. Any more pics?