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The infamous 'spy gate' that began during the 2007 season is now one step closer to being closed for good, with a court hearing in Modena, Italy, dropping charges against the McLaren employees. The employees involved being McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan and senior employees Paddy Lowe, Jonathan Neale and Rob Taylor.
What so the WCC would have been less tainted if McLren where allowed to keep points and win it illegally?tetopelis wrote:i'm sori..this is utter bulls***..Ferrari and its fans, i hope you are finally oh so happy..congrats in winning a completely tainted and murky title
Just becuase they say they didn't doesn't mean they didn't! Even Ron might have been in on it for all you know. Only the people involved know the truth for sure. What is all this bull --- about Ferrari winning a tainted title? What about McLaren drivers winning tainted titles with cars that might very well not be 100% McLaren? The fact of the matter is that all of these arm chair warriors haven't got a clue really.Fan Solo wrote:Edit: may as well have it from the source.
http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/mclar ... nStatement
Original linkhttp://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=32757
Mclaren didnt use the data their errant employee had, and never intended to in the first place! why would they? the MP4-22 is a beauty.
Of course they didn't copy he F2007. But certain information regarding F2007 could easily be used to enhance a lame duck of a MP4-22 and IMO enough of the 'right' information could do this.Fan Solo wrote: Im sorry but the WDC points & WCC points tell a different story, if they copied the F2007 why is the MP4-22 better?
The truth? You can't (seem to) handle the truth! McLaren were one way or another in posession of Ferrari infomation. GUILTY. And it amazes me that Ferrari and the F.I.A. are the bad guys. If it was the other way around there would be --- uproar!Fan Solo wrote:Dont really get the relevance of the YT link either but hey, someone might.
I'm not sure if even RD knows that McLaren have their 'entirely own car', to say the least me or anyone else in here. He 'clearly' didn't know anything about this whole thing. It's only Coughlan who stunk, nobody knew. Except Whitmarsh. Oh, and Lowe. Opps, and Neale. And Taylor. And maybe the drivers, their engineers and mechanics. But RD didn't know, so the team is obviously clean and honest. After all, their color is silver, not red, and that is all that matters...Tom wrote:But from Scarbs comments I think its fair, everyone will remember this as the year Mclaren dominated in their own car and the FIA couldn't handle it, each Ferrari fan here (looking at FLC and djones in particular) knows Mclaren have entirely their own car but their employees are holding information whch they clearly shouldn't.
honestly, manchild your allergations and bias fed, groundless accusations do nothing to add any value to the arguement save for the little humour found in your adolescent style of argument. please, don't just sit down and projectile vomit onto the keyboard, relax, take a minute, remove emotion and bias from what you need to say and then ask yourself the critical question: 'Am i adding anything to this topic'. and one last tip, dont bring any higly emotive sh*t to the topic like references to the fuhrer.manchild wrote: scarbs, Ferrari had FIA tech regulations for each and every year before they were officially revealed (domination period). FIA changed tyre regulations 3 time to help Ferrari. Can I prove it? No, because FIA is part of the dirty works in F1 and unfortunately they are the judge and the jury too. How convenient!
Dude, thats just entirely unneccessary and ultimately your irrational arguments just end up making you look like a sociopath.manchild wrote: My comments are pure speculation and they can't be proved because fascist pig is the head of the FIA and in fascism there is no place for truth but only for Führer's will.
more brilliant rheotoric from the manCHILD. You wont mind if i hold you to that will you?manchild wrote: I'm still waiting for official decision and than I'll write my goodbye message if this turns out to be the truth.
Ok I figured thats what you illuded to but theirs your truth & theirs mine.Scuderia_Russ wrote:Of course they didn't copy he F2007. But certain information regarding F2007 could easily be used to enhance a lame duck of a MP4-22 and IMO enough of the 'right' information could do this.Fan Solo wrote: Im sorry but the WDC points & WCC points tell a different story, if they copied the F2007 why is the MP4-22 better?
The truth? You can't (seem to) handle the truth! McLaren were one way or another in posession of Ferrari infomation. GUILTY. And it amazes me that Ferrari and the F.I.A. are the bad guys. If it was the other way around there would be --- uproar!Fan Solo wrote:Dont really get the relevance of the YT link either but hey, someone might.
Ok, thats a fair and justified comment but its not as clean cut as that.Your writing a test, a fairly long and complicated one. I have the test paper. out of the whole class i show you the paper, but just long enough for you to read through it. Now you rmember not all the questions in the test but you remember what sections of what work the test focusses on. You go home and concentrate on those sections. you didnt copy the test exaclty or memorise the answers but its fair to say you had an unfair advantage over your classmates by the simple act of being privy to the information i showed you.
