kptaylor wrote:dans79 wrote:adrianjordan wrote:
Mandate that, as a condition of entry, they must be willing to supply at least 2 additional teams (for works manufacturers) or 3 teams (for purely PU suppliers).
This has issues though, who decides who gets what engines if they all cost the same? If the manufactures decide, then the best factory manufactures will be lobbying the back markers because they aren't a threat to the factory team. The midfield teams will be screwed because they will get stuck with the worst engine. The fia can't decide as that would be considered a conflict of interest.
That's why there needs to be a way to allow for bidding and to divorce the works team from the engine manufacturer.
Why would you need any of that? Why something that was considered the perfect system couple years ago is now a tragedy? It's not an F1 crisis - Renault is staying - it's only a crisis of a single team and its stooge team, that's what it is. This "crisis" is reality of F1 for many years, only difference Red Bull with all the marketing money is on the opposite end of it. This "crisis" ends once a team gets what it wants, like Pirelli tyres propaganda. As for divorcing there's absolutely no need for that. F1 engine expert H. Marko is concerned:
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-b ... f-f1-exit/ Red Bull warns of impact of F1 exit
"The truth is that the engine - the hardware - is not the real issue. That is the software and the same fuel."
Yes we know it, that's how you treated your customer team Lotus in 2014. How about you live by your own rules? BTW the hardware was also the issue - exploding bottom of the barrel engines at mid-season test.
So once you can equalise the above (software and fuel), only thing that is left is apply tyres rules to manufacturers and customers. Mercedes is sending all the engines to FIA and then they are randomly assigning them to teams. Why would that be a problem - they are all the same. Now ask yourself what kind of real life reaction from Ferrari etc. would have been about this system. By real life I exclude my preference is reality voting fantasy crowd here. What's the point of even discussing your perfect systems?
Not exactly the engines but connected through performance and applies to the whole F1, Marko:
"That is [Red Bull owner] Mr Mateschitz's opinion. He knows that it costs the same amount of money to race at the front or, like we are now doing, in the 'premium midfield' - and he is not willing to do that for another season."
This is just perfect because it is close enough to Lotus '12-'13('14) with one small difference Ecclestone money and excluding sporting side, like penalties. Again no need to change unless we're losing from it.
Edit: Why are you even discussing systems when it's not what Red Bull wants anyway? They want special parity deal with their engine supplier not fixing F1. Nothing changes or is worse for the others. Customers of Mercedes haven't received upgraded engines for the third race in a row and that's not considered a crisis
? They are planning something opposite, allowing year-old or other b-spec engines through change of rules. This really is pointless and detached from (reality more than usual).
