2015 Mexican Grand Prix - Mexico City, Oct 30 - Nov 1

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We don't really know that. The track has water and oil mixed. It is not rubbered in and teams are still finding their way to get a good set up.

On a side note, it's quite strange Verstappen was allowed to keep his time. He surely did not mean to set it while cutting a corner, but still it should have been removed as this gives a wrong picture.
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Jonnycraig wrote:
fenix4life wrote:Would someone dare to go low DF?
No. Even at nearly Monaco spec, they're only getting Monza effect DF.

They wouldn't keep it on the track with a low DF setup.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:Mercedes are in trouble. The tarmac is too oily.
Far too little running to make that conclusion...
He was joking....I hope.
It's just shades of Singapore all over again. The same feeling... I need to do some betting this week.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: It's just shades of Singapore all over again. The same feeling... I need to do some betting this week.
look at the lap times, no way Renault (Kvyat) finishes in front of both Merc & Ferrari at a power track! It's a brand new track, testing programs are all over the place, and multiple teams are having brake cooling issues.
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Corner Cutting is gonna be a big issue this weekend. This is an advantage to Vettel who is always mm-perfect in expanding the track to just short of the point where it would be so blatant the stewards would have to penalize him.

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dans79 wrote:look at the lap times, no way Renault (Kvyat) finishes in front of both Merc & Ferrari at a power track! It's a brand new track, testing programs are all over the place, and multiple teams are having brake cooling issues.
I disagree on it being a power track in it's current state. Teams are grip limited, thus run as much downforce as they can, and Red Bull got plenty. Horsepower isn't useful if you can't put it down on the road.

I think both Red Bull and Toro Rosso have again a chance to be near the front.

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Autosport reporting Aston Martin to take over Force India.

http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.p ... artin-deal
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gray41 wrote:Autosport reporting Aston Martin to take over Force India.

http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.p ... artin-deal
Can you paste it here? I can't view it since I'm not a member.
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ME4ME wrote:
dans79 wrote:look at the lap times, no way Renault (Kvyat) finishes in front of both Merc & Ferrari at a power track! It's a brand new track, testing programs are all over the place, and multiple teams are having brake cooling issues.
I disagree on it being a power track in it's current state. Teams are grip limited, thus run as much downforce as they can, and Red Bull got plenty. Horsepower isn't useful if you can't put it down on the road.

I think both Red Bull and Toro Rosso have again a chance to be near the front.
It's a very strange track with its own rules. It will feel like a power track since top speeds are high and grip levels low, but indeed the set up is maximum downforce (and cooling).
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We've been beating up on Pirelli for the last several years for tires that seem to degrade and go wobbly even given the mandate to force multiple pit stops. Here's some positive Pirelli history--

At the 1986 F1 Mexico race, all the frontrunners were on the highly respected Goodyear tires, and they required 3-5 stints to make it to the finish. The previously uncompetitive Pirelli tires went nonstop with good pace, allowing Gerhard Berger to steer the Toleman/Benetton BMW-turbo to a lonely but dominant win. I think the first win for Toleman, first for Berger, probably first for Pirelli.

That story is probably also a positive reflection for Toleman. Since then they've been through multiple world championships, the crash-gate scandal, extremely tough financial times, and many many different names/owners. Huge amounts of water under the bridge, both good and bad. But they are still here today, a clear non-stop lineage from the 1986 team that won the race. Congratulations Lotus.

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Nathanael F1 wrote:
gray41 wrote:Autosport reporting Aston Martin to take over Force India.

http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.p ... artin-deal
Can you paste it here? I can't view it since I'm not a member.
The Force India Formula 1 team is closing on a deal to be rebranded as Aston Martin Racing next season, Autosport understands.

The move will bring the British sportscar manufacturer back to F1, over half a century after its previous brief foray in 1959 and 1960.

Aston Martin wants to have a presence in F1 to take on sportscar rivals McLaren and Ferrari on track as well as off.

It previously discussed a return to F1 in a tie-up with Red Bull as well as holding talks with Williams and Force India, before ultimately deciding to focus on the latter.

Alongside the team name change, it is understood the livery will become blue and gold as part of a link-up with sponsor Johnnie Walker.

Aston Martin will receive branding on the car while there be synergy on R&D to allow for significant technology transfer from F1 to its road car business.

Force India's engine supplier Mercedes, which owns five per cent of Aston Martin, is said to have given its blessing to such an arrangement.

Speaking to Autosport, Force India team principal Vijay Mallya said: "If tomorrow someone comes and offers me a good sum of money for title sponsorship, I'll seek the team name.

"If the marque comes along and I have to change the team name, I have to look at what it does for the team in terms of profile.

"It's premature to talk about it now, but we're talking.

"Nothing is done until it's done. I don't like to count my chickens until they are hatched."

A Force India spokesman said: "We continue to have a number of discussions about 2016 and beyond with both our current and new partners who see a commercial value in a relationship with Force India.

"When the time is right we will make suitable announcements in conjunction with our commercial partners. The future remains very bright for the team."

Force India will need to apply to F1's commercial rights holder to get approval for a name change, but such permission is believed to be a formality.
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dunno if anyone posted. This is from Renault
power is 22% less, so the turbo spins faster to input more oxygen to ICE. It will spin 8% more here than Abu Dhabi
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Question: Why FIA didn't delete VES time if he cut the corner? (didn't watch FP1 but reading online that he cut the corner)

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ME4ME wrote:
dans79 wrote:look at the lap times, no way Renault (Kvyat) finishes in front of both Merc & Ferrari at a power track! It's a brand new track, testing programs are all over the place, and multiple teams are having brake cooling issues.
I disagree on it being a power track in it's current state. Teams are grip limited, thus run as much downforce as they can, and Red Bull got plenty. Horsepower isn't useful if you can't put it down on the road.

I think both Red Bull and Toro Rosso have again a chance to be near the front.
Merc were 0.6 faster just on the home straight when they actually had a go....

Will end up like Austria IMO. Vettel stuck behind both Mercs and probably Bottas.

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Rosberg set a very fast S1 time before his brakes failed and Hamilton was on a great lap until he pitted before completing it.

We haven't seen anything representative from them yet.

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J0rd4n wrote:Rosberg set a very fast S1 time before his brakes failed and Hamilton was on a great lap until he pitted before completing it.

We haven't seen anything representative from them yet.
Yep, Lewis was up 1.1 seconds after sector 2 on his medium run, and then he dove into the pits.
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F1NAC wrote:dunno if anyone posted. This is from Renault
power is 22% less, so the turbo spins faster to input more oxygen to ICE. It will spin 8% more here than Abu Dhabi
EDIT:
Question: Why FIA didn't delete VES time if he cut the corner? (didn't watch FP1 but reading online that he cut the corner)
He had another lap which was clean. That one was kept. The even faster one was deleted.