#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
I remember reading somewhere RB in the last few seasons had slightly different FW at almost every GP,so maybe this is part of Perer Prodrumou work philosophy,and Ron did say he will have absolute freedom in his department.lkocev wrote:Making reference to the sidepod outlet at the rear, it looks to me like it has been opened up a little bit. Low lying view of the floor in that area has a very 'wow' factor about it, just look at how extreme the undercut is, its so extreme it looks like it could be passing beneath the gearbox itself. Perhaps increased cooling requirement expected for next years PU is driving this, but the sidepod outlet looks different to me.
Interesting front wing change, the transition of the two profiles blending into a single profile on that upper 'flap' looks much more pronounced. I look at this front wing with awe for the CAD guys drawing it, there is so much surface complexity there, I expect it would be quite a nightmare to make mods for it too.
I wonder though, it seems McLaren have been slightly modifying the front wing at almost every grand prix of recent, I just wonder if that is really necessary? I suppose of the other hand, it could suggest that the overall design concept of the front wing yields quite consistent performance characteristics.
Sevach wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUwp4zxWEAIQUxa.jpg
Bodywork hugging the exhaust much tighter now.
And maybe some interaction between the bodywork and the rear suspension arm.
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
I actually find this funny. In 2013 everybody was banging on how Mclaren and others should copy the RedBull style front wing with the last element attached to the outer endplate. Now that McLaren has adopted that design idea that PP brought across (with the last element attached to the outer endplate) from RedBull everybody is off their rockers again saying that McLaren should copy the Merc style wing with a separated outer endplate and last wing element.DiogoBrand wrote:Can we expect a Merc style FW next season? I mean, no one can know for sure what's best, but it seems the two most aerodinamically advanced teams are using it, so it must have one or two qualities to it, right?
Not to mention... it's f*****g beautiful!
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Next to the fact of course there's very little to pick between the red bull wing and the mercedes wing. They are fairly identical in terms of concepts and philosophies:trinidefender wrote:I actually find this funny. In 2013 everybody was banging on how Mclaren and others should copy the RedBull style front wing with the last element attached to the outer endplate. Now that McLaren has adopted that design idea that PP brought across (with the last element attached to the outer endplate) from RedBull everybody is off their rockers again saying that McLaren should copy the Merc style wing with a separated outer endplate and last wing element.DiogoBrand wrote:Can we expect a Merc style FW next season? I mean, no one can know for sure what's best, but it seems the two most aerodinamically advanced teams are using it, so it must have one or two qualities to it, right?
Not to mention... it's f*****g beautiful!
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... medium.jpg
You guys crack me up, can never make up your minds.
I wouldn't actually say so. The outer section of the Merc front wing is different from any other team. The opening, where the lowest element is that I was referring to as a tunnel of sorts previously, is completely different from any other team.turbof1 wrote:Next to the fact of course there's very little to pick between the red bull wing and the mercedes wing. They are fairly identical in terms of concepts and philosophies:trinidefender wrote:I actually find this funny. In 2013 everybody was banging on how Mclaren and others should copy the RedBull style front wing with the last element attached to the outer endplate. Now that McLaren has adopted that design idea that PP brought across (with the last element attached to the outer endplate) from RedBull everybody is off their rockers again saying that McLaren should copy the Merc style wing with a separated outer endplate and last wing element.DiogoBrand wrote:Can we expect a Merc style FW next season? I mean, no one can know for sure what's best, but it seems the two most aerodinamically advanced teams are using it, so it must have one or two qualities to it, right?
Not to mention... it's f*****g beautiful!
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... medium.jpg
You guys crack me up, can never make up your minds.
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http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/McL ... 912224.jpg
What Mclaren currently has, is a merc style wing. Unless you want an exact replica of the same wing, Diogobrand got exactly what he wants, as in currently now in the present. Just because the wing flaps look a tad different, does not mean they have different functions.
Both Mclaren and Red Bull have INDEPEDENTLY moved towards Mercedes this year.
It follows the same philosophy. What we are seeing at Mercedes is just a more extreme application of the same concept. Same with the whether not connecting of the endplate/vertical fence with the trailing edge of the uppermost element. Yes it will create a different airflow pattern, but I don't really see how it will be vastly different. Rather, this looks to me like finetuning with the brake ducts when the wheels are turned.I wouldn't actually say so. The outer section of the Merc front wing is different from any other team. The opening, where the lowest element is that I was referring to as a tunnel of sorts previously, is completely different from any other team.
