Ferrari 667 Speculation Thread

[hemichromis]

Apparently Mercedes had Furniture Croissants last year and they gave an extra 50hp over the Furniture bread roll used by other teams.

Good move by Ferrari.

[atlantis]

You wouldn't start a race if the croissants are not approved!

[f1316]

In-keeping with fairly non-technical speculation, I'm a bit bummed that every report seems to mention the Torro Rosso style 'bulge' nose rather than the Mercedes style one.

Undoubtedly Ferrari will do the best thing for the car and, if they go with the bulge, it's because they think it's the best solution; I guess I just would like it if the more aesthetically pleasing solution of Mercedes was what people were converging upon.

As I say, just a bit of subjective musing on aesthetics to while away the time until launch, so don't shoot me for being untechnical.

[Rhodium]

"aesthetically pleasing solution of Mercedes"

i'm not agree.
more efficient ? perhaps...
more aesthetical ? not.

for me, look of F1 is important for the pleasure, like a beautifull lap, a great victory...
SF15-T nose is more aesthetical than Mercedes one.
i know everybody have different taste, but, i'm not really excited by nose design since 2012...

for me, the F1 must look like F1.
it's really hard for me to see all new design (nose since 2012 or future design for 2017)
i follow F1 since 1997 (my god, i'm a old man!) and i cry for 1998/2005 F1, for me the best period or F1... sound, speed, look, philosophy...

[f1316]

"aesthetically pleasing solution of Mercedes"

i'm not agree.
more efficient ? perhaps...
more aesthetical ? not.

for me, look of F1 is important for the pleasure, like a beautifull lap, a great victory...
SF15-T nose is more aesthetical than Mercedes one.
i know everybody have different taste, but, i'm not really excited by nose design since 2012...

for me, the F1 must look like F1.
it's really hard for me to see all new design (nose since 2012 or future design for 2017)
i follow F1 since 1997 (my god, i'm a old man!) and i cry for 1998/2005 F1, for me the best period or F1... sound, speed, look, philosophy...

Gotcha.

What I really meant though was that the Mercedes nose solution is the most aesthetically pleasing of the short ones - I.e. Better than Williams, Torro Rosso, Red Bull, 2nd McLaren nose et al.

Probably on balance I also prefer the Mercedes nose to the sf-15's but I think that's a fairly moot point since short noses seems to be the way it's going in terms of performance. Then again any discussion of aesthetics is fairly moot so I can't really talk

[ferkan]

Lots of news past few days from Italy. 667 was fired up for the first time today, everything went smoothly. Test bench numbers are excellent, the PU produces more then 900hp but still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell, and will see how testing goes before Melbourne. For now, engine cannot last 4 GPs.

[ME4ME]

Lots of news past few days from Italy. 667 was fired up for the first time today, everything went smoothly. Test bench numbers are excellent, the PU produces more then 900hp but still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell, and will see how testing goes before Melbourne. For now, engine cannot last 4 GPs.

Thanks for the info! There is time left to improve reliability, but it's still a bit worrying that they can't do 4 GPs on the dyno. You'd think that naturally track testing is going to be tougher on the PU, so that mileage goes down even further. Ferrari cannot afford an extra power unit this season if they want to challenge for the drivers championship with Vettel. Fortunately even if the first PU only holds for 2 or 3 GP's, that should give them enough time to iron out any minor issues, so the other 4 allowed units should be enough to finish the season with, if they can handle 5 GP's each.

[giantfan10]

Lots of news past few days from Italy. 667 was fired up for the first time today, everything went smoothly. Test bench numbers are excellent, the PU produces more then 900hp but still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell, and will see how testing goes before Melbourne. For now, engine cannot last 4 GPs.

Thanks for the info! There is time left to improve reliability, but it's still a bit worrying that they can't do 4 GPs on the dyno. You'd think that naturally track testing is going to be tougher on the PU, so that mileage goes down even further. Ferrari cannot afford an extra power unit this season if they want to challenge for the drivers championship with Vettel. Fortunately even if the first PU only holds for 2 or 3 GP's, that should give them enough time to iron out any minor issues, so the other 4 allowed units should be enough to finish the season with, if they can handle 5 GP's each.

still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell

[Joseki]

The problem is Marchionne at the moment, he want Ferrari to be in front of Mercedes, so maybe they'll have to extract all power but there is a high chance that doing so they'll break the PU in race conditions, and Marchionne would be equally unhappy.

[ME4ME]

still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell

I read that, chill. I chose to write what I did because A) There is no guarantee the new fuel fixes the issue. B) Similar reliability issues were reported earlier this winter already. C) Ferrari are said to be pushing for extreme combustion pressures.

It's probably fine, just speculating here and looking out for the team because I want them to spice things up at the front

[giantfan10]

still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell

I read that, chill. I chose to write what I did because A) There is no guarantee the new fuel fixes the issue. B) Similar reliability issues were reported earlier this winter already. C) Ferrari are said to be pushing for extreme combustion pressures.

It's probably fine, just speculating here and looking out for the team because I want them to spice things up at the front

i'm pretty chill actually.... to be honest just curious as to the original posters source

[ferkan]

Omnicorse/Gazzetta/F1analisitecnica.

[giantfan10]

Omnicorse/Gazzetta/F1analisitecnica.

thanks

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Lots of news past few days from Italy. 667 was fired up for the first time today, everything went smoothly. Test bench numbers are excellent, the PU produces more then 900hp but still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell, and will see how testing goes before Melbourne. For now, engine cannot last 4 GPs.

Thanks for the info! There is time left to improve reliability, but it's still a bit worrying that they can't do 4 GPs on the dyno. You'd think that naturally track testing is going to be tougher on the PU, so that mileage goes down even further. Ferrari cannot afford an extra power unit this season if they want to challenge for the drivers championship with Vettel. Fortunately even if the first PU only holds for 2 or 3 GP's, that should give them enough time to iron out any minor issues, so the other 4 allowed units should be enough to finish the season with, if they can handle 5 GP's each.

still has reliability issues primary from engine knocking. But Ferrari still has to recieve latest fuel from Shell

Mercedes also had knocking problems at the beginning of last year, which didn't allowed them to run the PU at the same configuration as they were using in qualifying. They brought the fix in Canada and since then they started running closer to the quali mode in races. I don't think they attributed the fix to the fuel change.

[Big Mangalhit]

I wonder if it is not worth it to have 1/2 engine penalties in the season to have the best package around. I had the impression that if a car like the W06 started from the back they could still score some good points in that race. So maybe it's better to risk it and have a car that wins most races and finishes 3/4 on the ones with penalties. I don't know at least in my mind it would look like fun competition to have the Ferrari being quicker but unreliable and have the championship decided by details like the drivers for once. But everything looks better on the off season.