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It appears that both cars have about the same panels width in the marked area while McL is slightly slimmer towards the very back
the very tip of the coke bottle is deceptive for Ferrari ,looks like they made a choice to flair the hot air exhaust for some reason. there is no component that forces them to do that in that area of the car.
So guys:
-Removed tobacco livery posts. Not belonging here.
-Removed juvenile jokes about the "penis" nose. Was perhaps fun for 1 or 2 posts, but it got out of hand.
-After consideration, I'll leave the wheelbase posts. For now. If it gets stretched too much further, I'll split topics. In the end, the discussion is relevant. I will not tolerate any further hanging up on determining if the wheelbase is longer, shorter or the same. One important fact in here is that most posts on this issue resolved around this specific car's wheelbase and not in generalities. And an other fact, for which I'll step out of moderator position and join as a normal member:
Gilgen, what Bhall say is true: Ferrari even mentioned during their launch event that they went radical with the PU packaging at the rear, calling it "getting rid of encumbrances". A shorter wheelbase will make the car mechanical-wise more agile, which is important for slow corners. A longer wheelbase on the other hand will provide more stability in high speed corners, as well improving the aero platform (more room to taper eveything nicely at the back to minimize airflow obstruction.)
Now Ferrari did neither shorten or lengthen (significantly), but managed to taper the back quite a bit better through agressive packaging. This will positively affect rear downforce.
It appears that both cars have about the same panels width in the marked area while McL is slightly slimmer towards the very back
the very tip of the coke bottle is deceptive for Ferrari ,looks like they made a choice to flair the hot air exhaust for some reason. there is no component that forces them to do that in that area of the car.
I see what you mean, maybe they're trying to lower the pressure of the hot air by opening the exit? Just my idea. Doubt it would make a big difference. Also because the bottom part is so undercut I think they might be trying to keep the same size of exit.
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It should be noted that in profile view, the Ferrari has vertically thinner side pod cooling exits than the McLaren, while the Mclaren's exits are narrow horizontally (in plan view). In theory this may mean the Ferrari can support a greater mass flow of air within close proximity to the coke bottle, while the McLaren receives more airflow further out and towards the rear.
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"OMG my fellow employees. You never guessed what I saw at F1technical today. Cars! But not just any cars! Cars with front crash structures shaped in such a way they tingle my fantasies and look like a penis. A fricking penis! Can you believe the astrosities I had to go through, today? It's not enough that my boss put my on review this week!"
There people, you glad now? For the guys feeling to urge to post about this again in this thread, I got 2 words. GROW UP.
I made a circumcision and removed the penis... jokes.
It appears that both cars have about the same panels width in the marked area while McL is slightly slimmer towards the very back
the very tip of the coke bottle is deceptive for Ferrari ,looks like they made a choice to flair the hot air exhaust for some reason. there is no component that forces them to do that in that area of the car.
I see what you mean, maybe they're trying to lower the pressure of the hot air by opening the exit? Just my idea. Doubt it would make a big difference. Also because the bottom part is so undercut I think they might be trying to keep the same size of exit.
i think ambient air hugs the floor through the undercut and the wider higher hot air exit sends hot air over a wider area of the diffuser in a controlled fashion
The gills on either side of the cockpit are gone today, but they used them yesterday. Although, yesterday they didn't use then the whole day either. Appears they started off conservative on the cooling and then went for a more normal setup.