2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[Macklaren]

Lets take two oldest teams: Ferrari vs. Mclaren in terms of this years sponsors:

Ferrari:
- Marlboro
- Shell
- Kaspersky
- Weichai
- Santander
- UPS
- Mahle
- Telcel
- Claro
- TNT
- Alfa Romeo (practically their own money)
- Hublot


Mclaren:
- Honda
- Mobil 1
- Chandon (Johnnie) -
- Segafredo -
- Hilton -
- Esso (Mobil 1)
- CNN
- SAP
- Richard Mille
- Santander
- KPMG

Both of the companies have succesful sports car sales. May have missed someone. Overall the number of sponsors on the car and overalls is not so different. The only difference is how are the teams placing them on the car.

Ferrari probably gets more money, but still not too much in comparison.

I don't believe Ferrari gets any money from any of those sponsors. Marlboro does.

[proteus]

What do u mean by that?

[Macklaren]

What do u mean by that?

I believe Marlboro runs the sponsorship for Ferrari...which is why they pay them such a huge fee despite not having (direct) signage on the car

[Scuderia1967]

No, not joking at all.

Ferrari has no title sponsor because Philip Morris/Marlboro can't show its name, everybody knows it

[Scuderia1967]

Lets take two oldest teams: Ferrari vs. Mclaren in terms of this years sponsors:

Ferrari:
- Marlboro
- Shell
- Kaspersky
- Weichai
- Santander
- UPS
- Mahle
- Telcel
- Claro
- TNT
- Alfa Romeo (practically their own money)
- Hublot


Mclaren:
- Honda
- Mobil 1
- Chandon (Johnnie) -
- Segafredo -
- Hilton -
- Esso (Mobil 1)
- CNN
- SAP
- Richard Mille
- Santander
- KPMG

Both of the companies have succesful sports car sales. May have missed someone. Overall the number of sponsors on the car and overalls is not so different. The only difference is how are the teams placing them on the car.

Ferrari probably gets more money, but still not too much in comparison.

So you're implying that McLaren gets the same money as Ferrari for a almost sponsor-free car?

[proteus]

Many sites claimed that Honda itself paid Mclaren 100 mil. (25mil. pounds of money, half of the driver salaries and free engines) in 2015. Chandon (probably 10-20 mil. dollars) and Mobil 1 (35 mil. dollars) are strong sponsor partners as well. I didnt write "same amount", but not so different. So this 3 stickers on the car alone are literally worth as much as whole budget of FI with sponsors+ reward money. Ferrari has 60 millions dollars more in sponsor money, but 170 less of partners assets.

This was published in august. My statements are based on this report. Well if the report is false, than my statements are wrong as well.

F1 2015 team budgets:

The full breakdown is below - the figures in brackets show income from sponsors, then partners and then from TV/FOM...


1. Red Bull Racing (€266m + €35.7m + €167m) = €468.7m
2. Mercedes (€122m + €212.4m + €133m) = €467.4m
3. McLaren Honda (€144.5m + €216.5m + €104m) = €465m
4. Ferrari (€208.5m + €34.5m + €175m) = €418m
5. Williams (€52.5m + €22.9m + €111m) = €186.4m
6. Lotus (€69.5m + €13.6m + €56m) = €139.1m
7. Toro Rosso (€68m + €9.45m + €60m) = €137.45m
8. Force India (€49.5m + €12.2m + €68m) = €129.7m
9. Sauber (€44m + €9.25m + €50m) = €103.25m
10. Manor (€0.5m + €32.5m + €50m) = €83m

Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/news/221835/1/f ... 4EoXAZv8.9

[McG]

Respect to proteus for coming up with the figures and common sense.

The cry babies going on about a lack of title sponsor should read more and post less, possibly take a basic maths class and stop trolling.

Oh and the livery is awesome. Also really like the new snarling nose. Best of luch to McLaren Honda.

[cmF1]

Lets take two oldest teams: Ferrari vs. Mclaren in terms of this years sponsors:

Ferrari:
- Marlboro
- Shell
- Kaspersky
- Weichai
- Santander
- UPS
- Mahle
- Telcel
- Claro
- TNT
- Alfa Romeo (practically their own money)
- Hublot


Mclaren:
- Honda
- Mobil 1
- Chandon (Johnnie) -
- Segafredo -
- Hilton -
- Esso (Mobil 1)
- CNN
- SAP
- Richard Mille
- Santander
- KPMG

Both of the companies have succesful sports car sales. May have missed someone. Overall the number of sponsors on the car and overalls is not so different. The only difference is how are the teams placing them on the car.

Ferrari probably gets more money, but still not too much in comparison.

You typed "Chandon (Johnnie)"

They are two completely separate companies.
One is owned by LVMH, and the other is owned by Diageo.

[Alonsofor2017]

Many sites claimed that Honda itself paid Mclaren 100 mil. (25mil. pounds of money, half of the driver salaries and free engines) in 2015. Chandon (probably 10-20 mil. dollars) and Mobil 1 (35 mil. dollars) are strong sponsor partners as well. I didnt write "same amount", but not so different. So this 3 stickers on the car alone are literally worth as much as whole budget of FI with sponsors+ reward money. Ferrari has 60 millions dollars more in sponsor money, but 170 less of partners assets.

This was published in august. My statements are based on this report. Well if the report is false, than my statements are wrong as well.

F1 2015 team budgets:

The full breakdown is below - the figures in brackets show income from sponsors, then partners and then from TV/FOM...


1. Red Bull Racing (€266m + €35.7m + €167m) = €468.7m
2. Mercedes (€122m + €212.4m + €133m) = €467.4m
3. McLaren Honda (€144.5m + €216.5m + €104m) = €465m
4. Ferrari (€208.5m + €34.5m + €175m) = €418m
5. Williams (€52.5m + €22.9m + €111m) = €186.4m
6. Lotus (€69.5m + €13.6m + €56m) = €139.1m
7. Toro Rosso (€68m + €9.45m + €60m) = €137.45m
8. Force India (€49.5m + €12.2m + €68m) = €129.7m
9. Sauber (€44m + €9.25m + €50m) = €103.25m
10. Manor (€0.5m + €32.5m + €50m) = €83m

Read more at http://www.crash.net/f1/news/221835/1/f ... 4EoXAZv8.9

You can easily see why there called the big four here (McLaren Ferrari red bull and Mercedes) they have double what any other team have, it looks like the only 2 teams possible of joining Ferrari and Mercedes in a championship battle are McLaren and red bull, both are not in the best position, and red bull are already discounting half the year, I'd expect Renault to have the fifth biggest budget now somewhere in between big four and normal teams

[CjC]

Respect to proteus for coming up with the figures and common sense.

The cry babies going on about a lack of title sponsor should read more and post less, possibly take a basic maths class and stop trolling.

Oh and the livery is awesome. Also really like the new snarling nose. Best of luch to McLaren Honda.

Cry baby? Good one
Isn't that the point of a forum? For someone who doesn't know something to ask and for someone who does know to answer it?

Thank you Proteus for enlightening me

[proteus]

Lets take two oldest teams: Ferrari vs. Mclaren in terms of this years sponsors:

Ferrari:
- Marlboro
- Shell
- Kaspersky
- Weichai
- Santander
- UPS
- Mahle
- Telcel
- Claro
- TNT
- Alfa Romeo (practically their own money)
- Hublot


Mclaren:
- Honda
- Mobil 1
- Chandon (Johnnie) -
- Segafredo -
- Hilton -
- Esso (Mobil 1)
- CNN
- SAP
- Richard Mille
- Santander
- KPMG

Both of the companies have succesful sports car sales. May have missed someone. Overall the number of sponsors on the car and overalls is not so different. The only difference is how are the teams placing them on the car.

Ferrari probably gets more money, but still not too much in comparison.

You typed "Chandon (Johnnie)"

They are two completely separate companies.
One is owned by LVMH, and the other is owned by Diageo.

Thank u for correction, when i did the research i was told that both brands are under the same roof. I am correcting it.

[Sayeman]

Any news from the testing?

[Scuderia1967]

Lets take two oldest teams: Ferrari vs. Mclaren in terms of this years sponsors:

Ferrari:
- Marlboro
- Shell
- Kaspersky
- Weichai
- Santander
- UPS
- Mahle
- Telcel
- Claro
- TNT
- Alfa Romeo (practically their own money)
- Hublot


Mclaren:
- Honda
- Mobil 1
- Chandon (Johnnie) -
- Segafredo -
- Hilton -
- Esso (Mobil 1)
- CNN
- SAP
- Richard Mille
- Santander
- KPMG

Both of the companies have succesful sports car sales. May have missed someone. Overall the number of sponsors on the car and overalls is not so different. The only difference is how are the teams placing them on the car.

Ferrari probably gets more money, but still not too much in comparison.

You typed "Chandon (Johnnie)"

They are two completely separate companies.
One is owned by LVMH, and the other is owned by Diageo.

Thank u for correction, when i did the research i was told that both brands are under the same roof. I am correcting it.

Diageo, owner of Johnnie Walker, has 34% of Chandon's stakes. I wouldn't exactly call them "separate companies"

[Felipe 92]

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[adrianjordan]

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