F1 2016 pre-season testing

[giantfan10]

Comparison betweeh HAM & VET both on the Medium tyre:

VET: 1:30.0, 1:29.6, 1:30.0, 1:29.8, 1:29.9, 1:29.6 and 1:30.0.

HAM: 1:28.9, 1:28.1, 1:28.3, 1:28.5, 1:28.2, 1:28.2, 1:28.1, 1:28.4, 1:28.6, 1:28.5 and 1:28.6

if those are even semi realistic (don't know about fuel loads) Ferrari has a good deal of work to do.

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

[Lord_Shaitan]

Red flag, Grosejean done lost his wing again.

Where did you find that?

That has to be a mistake...

[Just_a_fan]

Comparison betweeh HAM & VET both on the Medium tyre:

VET: 1:30.0, 1:29.6, 1:30.0, 1:29.8, 1:29.9, 1:29.6 and 1:30.0.

HAM: 1:28.9, 1:28.1, 1:28.3, 1:28.5, 1:28.2, 1:28.2, 1:28.1, 1:28.4, 1:28.6, 1:28.5 and 1:28.6

if those are even semi realistic (don't know about fuel loads) Ferrari has a good deal of work to do.

They both look like a driver driving to a time given to him by the engineers. As we don't know what the respective programmes were there's no way of knowing whether the times are good, bad or indifferent.

[dans79]

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

scroll up!

[ringo]

Factory Renault team doing much less work than redbull.

[f1316]

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

scroll up!

Don't even know what that means!

All of this means nothing, as we have absolutely no idea what teams are doing.

And yet I will say this: one tends to get a reasonable sense of the quick teams from testing. I'm not saying we should read anything into the headline times from day 1, but if, after testing, you see certain teams often being near the front, it's usually indicative of something.

[dans79]

Don't even know what that means!
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it means he should scroll up the page and read what I posted.

But remember, Ferrari are apparently rolling out an almost new car whereas everything we hear is that Mercedes is just an evolution of last years beast.

That's why I said they have work to do, they only have 2/3rds of the track time this year to sort the car out.

[f1316]

Don't even know what that means!

it means he should scroll up the page and read what I posted.

But remember, Ferrari are apparently rolling out an almost new car whereas everything we hear is that Mercedes is just an evolution of last years beast.

That's why I said they have work to do, they only have 2/3rds of the track time this year to sort the car out.

[/quote]

Right , but what you posted doesn't give any indication of anything - just you saying that if they are on similar fuel then Ferrari had a long way to go...

Don't understand how that helps. And, frankly, if you think those runs are on similar fuel loads, you're really not at the races.

[dans79]

Right , but what you posted doesn't give any indication of anything - just you saying that if they are on similar fuel then Ferrari had a long way to go...

Don't understand how that helps. And, frankly, if you think those runs are on similar fuel loads, you're really not at the races.

did you even read what i said?

[Postmoe]

Comparison betweeh HAM & VET both on the Medium tyre:

VET: 1:30.0, 1:29.6, 1:30.0, 1:29.8, 1:29.9, 1:29.6 and 1:30.0.

HAM: 1:28.9, 1:28.1, 1:28.3, 1:28.5, 1:28.2, 1:28.2, 1:28.1, 1:28.4, 1:28.6, 1:28.5 and 1:28.6

if those are even semi realistic (don't know about fuel loads) Ferrari has a good deal of work to do.

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

Because stints have always counted in testing, whereas fastest lap have traditionally been more marginal to performance during the season.

[ferkan]

if those are even semi realistic (don't know about fuel loads) Ferrari has a good deal of work to do.

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

Because stints have always counted in testing, whereas fastest lap have traditionally been more marginal to performance during the season.

FWIW at the same time Vettel was doing his stint, Hamilton was in low 31s. In any case, its far far to early to say anything about performances.

[Postmoe]

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

Because stints have always counted in testing, whereas fastest lap have traditionally been more marginal to performance during the season.

FWIW at the same time Vettel was doing his stint, Hamilton was in low 31s. In any case, its far far to early to say anything about performances.

It's too early, that's for sure.

[tomazy]

if those are even semi realistic (don't know about fuel loads) Ferrari has a good deal of work to do.

Based on what exactly? Do we know engine modes? Fuel loads? What data they are collecting on that particular run? Just like vettel having the fastest lap today means absolutely nothing so does any other lap time or collection of lap times by any car on the grid

Because stints have always counted in testing, whereas fastest lap have traditionally been more marginal to performance during the season.

The only stints that count in testing now, that refueling is banned, are stints in race simulations and qualy simulations. Those stints can be compared, becouse the fuel loads are known. for all we know, Vettel could be on the first stint fuel load(100-70kg), and Hamilton on second stint fuel load(70-40kg). The time for comparing the teams will be the last 2 days of testing, when almost all of them will do a qualy sim and a race sim in more or less equal conditions. I just hope that we, the fans will get all the informations and lap times from those simulations.

[f1316]

Right , but what you posted doesn't give any indication of anything - just you saying that if they are on similar fuel then Ferrari had a long way to go...

Don't understand how that helps. And, frankly, if you think those runs are on similar fuel loads, you're really not at the races.

did you even read what i said?

Yes. You seem to think you said something profound - if so, please elaborate

[ferkan]