2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

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DiogoBrand wrote:
vantage87 wrote:Jenson Button says McLaren-Honda has slashed its lap times by 'four or five tenths' per lap after fixing its engine ERS deployment system over the winter.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/227806/1/b ... mpaign=rss
Four or five tenths sounds like what an already competitive team could improve over the winter. Doesn't sound that good to me :?
Yes, but he's saying that the ERS deployment has given them 4 or 5 tenths by itself. There will also be gains in the ICE, chassis and aero. The snowball effect of having everything working in better harmony will also yield more gains.

Everything is going as expected, nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet. We won't get idea of their true pace until the 2nd test I'd guess.

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Has Arai been sacked? Just seen a tweet from Taki Inoue or is Taki drunk again?

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On Mclaren web shop there is only Button's clothes for 2016 available, but not Alonso's?
And Ted Kravitz saying that Alonso will decide tomorrow if he will drive for Mclaren when he tests the car.
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Thunder18 wrote:Has Arai been sacked? Just seen a tweet from Taki Inoue or is Taki drunk again?
Here they say that he is sacked, with Sato.
http://www.autosport.pt/formula1/f1/mud ... to-e-arai/

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Xero wrote: Yes, but he's saying that the ERS deployment has given them 4 or 5 tenths by itself. There will also be gains in the ICE, chassis and aero. The snowball effect of having everything working in better harmony will also yield more gains.

Everything is going as expected, nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet. We won't get idea of their true pace until the 2nd test I'd guess.
Makes sense. But since they had a gap of around 2,5 seconds last season, and so much of it has been blamed on ERS, I'd expect them to have more than 5 tenths of gain by fixing it.
Completely agree on the 'nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet' part, though.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
Xero wrote: Yes, but he's saying that the ERS deployment has given them 4 or 5 tenths by itself. There will also be gains in the ICE, chassis and aero. The snowball effect of having everything working in better harmony will also yield more gains.

Everything is going as expected, nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet. We won't get idea of their true pace until the 2nd test I'd guess.
Makes sense. But since they had a gap of around 2,5 seconds last season, and so much of it has been blamed on ERS, I'd expect them to have more than 5 tenths of gain by fixing it.
Completely agree on the 'nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet' part, though.
But the mood and expectations remain positive so far. =D> =D> =D>

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DiogoBrand wrote:
Xero wrote: Yes, but he's saying that the ERS deployment has given them 4 or 5 tenths by itself. There will also be gains in the ICE, chassis and aero. The snowball effect of having everything working in better harmony will also yield more gains.

Everything is going as expected, nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet. We won't get idea of their true pace until the 2nd test I'd guess.
Makes sense. But since they had a gap of around 2,5 seconds last season, and so much of it has been blamed on ERS, I'd expect them to have more than 5 tenths of gain by fixing it.
Completely agree on the 'nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet' part, though.
They were down by 3 seconds at the end of last year and Mercedes has been improving their car at close to 2 seconds every year since 2012, which means the benchmark is going to be near 5 seconds. Will McLaren-Honda be able to gain 5 seconds? May be not, but to remain in the mid field (somewhere along Red Bull/Toro Rosso/FI), they need to gain at a minimum 3 seconds. Only then, can they see some hope for 2017. Otherwise, they should forget this project.
My guess, based on what we have been reading around, it is quite possible that they ran their PU at de-tuned mode to first check the reliability of all the parts and might then start turning up the PU. What we have also heard from Ted on his notebook, is that, McLaren have two alternative configurations and they want to test both in these two tests and then arrive in Melbourne with a a package that is best of both the worlds. If they can stay under 2 seconds by the end of each tests (long runs), there is definite hope.

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turbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
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Xero wrote:
Everything is going as expected, nothing to get excited or disappointed about yet. We won't get idea of their true pace until the 2nd test I'd guess.
This is how 2015s pre-season test should have been. At least the lack of news(PU failures) its a good thing and they have done almost 90 laps. If they continue like that they will be able to check everything they need in order to built an improved PU for the first race.

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Dunno if you guys heard, but apparently Yasuhisa Arai was replaced by someone else as Honda F1 programme chief.

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Yes, validated again by this...
http://www.grandprixtimes.com/news/id/11352

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Naturally, a few more heads may roll too

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I'm just itching to see the top speed comparison between this year's and the last year's engine.
Never Give up.

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Gerhardsa wrote:Dunno if you guys heard, but apparently Yasuhisa Arai was replaced by someone else as Honda F1 programme chief.
Yup, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122919