Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H

[ferkan]

According to robocopj (F1analisitecnica) who is at circuit Ferrari looks good, but nothing more. He doesnt expect WC, has seen better traction from other Ferraris and just generally gives a feeling of being underwhelmed. He mentioned still nervous front and the fact that Rosberg was on gas pedal much sooner then Vettel.

Vettel kinda gave similar vibes today. Like he expected more...Has specifically said PU feels better and more powerful, but they still have much to work to do which I think he aimed at aero saying its totally new car. All in all, alot of work to do.

IMO alot of bits and pieces on car (FW, RW, aero parts around sidepods) still look relatively underdeveloped when compared to alot of cars, especially RBR and Mercedes.

[Fer.Fan]

According to robocopj (F1analisitecnica) who is at circuit Ferrari looks good, but nothing more. He doesnt expect WC, has seen better traction from other Ferraris and just generally gives a feeling of being underwhelmed. He mentioned still nervous front and the fact that Rosberg was on gas pedal much sooner then Vettel.

Vettel kinda gave similar vibes today. Like he expected more...Has specifically said PU feels better and more powerful, but they still have much to work to do which I think he aimed at aero saying its totally new car. All in all, alot of work to do.

IMO alot of bits and pieces on car (FW, RW, aero parts around sidepods) still look relatively underdeveloped when compared to alot of cars, especially RBR and Mercedes.

Not good if true. Regarding aero parts, I think Ferrari is using a lot of old parts just to compare data with last years car.

[dot235]

Well it's all relative. Better to be overall fast than slow but with good traction out of the certain corners.
We just have to wait and see, the car isn't bad at the very least.

[ferkan]

I have to clarify he was specifically talking about current testing situation. He says team feels there is plenty to come from car and that everyone is calm.

[gioma]

Comparison noise @MercedesAMGF1 VS @ScuderiaFerrari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoEp1ordx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94yZvw1I3M

I would say the Mercedes engine is reving faster than Ferrari.
It would be interesting to know if they were at same speed. If yes, it can be good news regarding fuel consumption...

[Juzh]

Comparison noise @MercedesAMGF1 VS @ScuderiaFerrari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoEp1ordx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94yZvw1I3M

I would say the Mercedes engine is reving faster than Ferrari.
It would be interesting to know if they were at same speed. If yes, it can be good news regarding fuel consumption...

Ferrari is not even pushing.

[FLuidd]

Comparison noise @MercedesAMGF1 VS @ScuderiaFerrari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoEp1ordx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b94yZvw1I3M

I would say the Mercedes engine is reving faster than Ferrari.
It would be interesting to know if they were at same speed. If yes, it can be good news regarding fuel consumption...

Ferrari is not even pushing.

PLS explain how can you tell?

[henra]

Vettel kinda gave similar vibes today. Like he expected more...Has specifically said PU feels better and more powerful, but they still have much to work to do which I think he aimed at aero saying its totally new car. All in all, alot of work to do.

I wouldn't read too much into that. Vettel is a typical German in that sense. They always find the hair in the Soup.

Still it is very likely that they have a lot of work to do. They probably changed their car the most drastically from all Teams. And they bolted on old aero parts on a car with a different Aero design. That is not going to give you ground breaking results. Would be similar to put on a FW on your car from a competitor. The important thing for them is to understand the car. That is an absolute requirement in order to make it better/faster.

[giantfan10]

I would say the Mercedes engine is reving faster than Ferrari.
It would be interesting to know if they were at same speed. If yes, it can be good news regarding fuel consumption...

Ferrari is not even pushing.

PLS explain how can you tell?

well you can hear the Ferrari get off the gas about 3 quarters of the way down the straight the mercedes stays on the gas a bit longer.. sounds like the Mercedes was harder on the gas for the time that it was on the gas.... doesnt sound like either car was going flat out.
how do i know this? i'm betting almost everyone on this forum that follows formula can tell when a car is pushing or not after hearing an engine at wide open throttle most people can tell when its not

[PlatinumZealot]

The ferrari was overheating.

[giantfan10]

i wonder why Ferrari isnt running a monkey seat even though Barelona is a medium to high downforce track.

[bhall II]

Something peculiar (to me anyway).

If sidepod contour is any indication, especially when compared to what they ran early last year, Red Bull seems to have adopted SF15-T's cooling layout...



Mercedes has definitely adopted SF15-T's sidepod treatment...



And Ferrari has abandoned both in an apparent return to a design philosophy that produced the team's first winless season in something like 20 years...



Now the car's overheating after offseason reliability concerns?

I'm left to wonder if the team has outsmarted itself yet again.

(Not to be taken too seriously. Just thoughts.)

[giantfan10]

really? i thought one of the moderators shot this down previously(turbo)
remember the garbage engine in the back of that 2014 car? that had anything to do with it being winless ??
COMPLETELY different engine and engine layout but you are musing about the 2014 and the 2016 car looking slightly similar from one angle. The sidepods of the 2015 and 2014 cars look nothing alike.... musing about overheating when the car ran 127 laps on the second day of testing with a radical new engine layout...you must really be bored lol

[bhall II]

really? i thought one of the moderators shot this down previously(turbo)
remember the garbage engine in the back of that 2014 car? that had anything to do with it being winless ??
COMPLETELY different engine and engine layout but you are musing about the 2014 and the 2016 car looking similar from one angle . musing about overheating when the car ran 127 laps on the second day of testing with a radical new engine layout...priceless!!

No one's obliged to participate. So, if you can't deal with thoughts that don't fit neatly into whatever narrative you've constructed for yourself, feel free to ignore this.

Otherwise, it's not a comparison for the sake of comparison. It's specifically related to the design of this thread's namesake.

[giantfan10]

really? i thought one of the moderators shot this down previously(turbo)
remember the garbage engine in the back of that 2014 car? that had anything to do with it being winless ??
COMPLETELY different engine and engine layout but you are musing about the 2014 and the 2016 car looking similar from one angle . musing about overheating when the car ran 127 laps on the second day of testing with a radical new engine layout...priceless!!

No one's obliged to participate. So, if you can't deal with thoughts that don't fit neatly into whatever narrative you've constructed for yourself, feel free to ignore this.

Otherwise, it's not a comparison for the sake of comparison. It's specifically related to the design of this thread's namesake.

there is enough muddy water around here as it is why contribute?