McLaren MP4-31 Honda

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radosav wrote:Found this on other forums, the guy who recorded it says Fernando on last day of his test did this many times. He would take last corner very fast than on straight he would slow don on dirty side then accelerate again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoLGES1G_U
Very strange, lap time to fast maybe? Wishful thinking I know.

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enkidu1978 wrote:
radosav wrote:Found this on other forums, the guy who recorded it says Fernando on last day of his test did this many times. He would take last corner very fast than on straight he would slow don on dirty side then accelerate again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoLGES1G_U
Very strange, lap time to fast maybe? Wishful thinking I know.

He's testing acceleration and/or traction most prob.

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I'am curious why McL haven't really done a competitive lap. I know it's just testing, but it still very much has commercial side to it. Being at the top of the table after such a terrible season would do them only good. And it's not like sandbagging will do anything good for them either. I mean, they aren't fighting with Ferrari, Mercedes, Force India or Williams regardless... So what's there to lose with doing one low fuel full beans lap on US?

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dot235 wrote:
enkidu1978 wrote:
radosav wrote:Found this on other forums, the guy who recorded it says Fernando on last day of his test did this many times. He would take last corner very fast than on straight he would slow don on dirty side then accelerate again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoLGES1G_U
Very strange, lap time to fast maybe? Wishful thinking I know.

He's testing acceleration and/or traction most prob.

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I'am curious why McL haven't really done a competitive lap. I know it's just testing, but it still very much has commercial side to it. Being at the top of the table after such a terrible season would do them only good. And it's not like sandbagging will do anything good for them either. I mean, they aren't fighting with Ferrari, Mercedes, Force India or Williams regardless... So what's there to lose with doing one low fuel full beans lap on US?
They might not have been able to risk running the PU to it's full potential for a reason! so for that reason I think we can safely assume they do have some time in the bank. I am going to say they only had one of the updated PU's so for this reason didn't want to push it to hard and break it, they wouldn't have gained any useful data. I am purely speculating, there could be another reason....?
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Steven wrote:
rccrdc wrote:Image
Quite interesting that they apparently found that such a big piece inside the exhaust pipe isn't a problem in relation to back pressure on the turbo charger..
Last year all teams had converged on the minimum allowed exhaust diameter, suggesting that the ideal diameter would be even smaller. This might be a way of going effectively below it. Clearly (to a point) back pressure is giving them more benefits than trouble.
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hollus wrote:
Steven wrote:
rccrdc wrote:
Quite interesting that they apparently found that such a big piece inside the exhaust pipe isn't a problem in relation to back pressure on the turbo charger..
Last year all teams had converged on the minimum allowed exhaust diameter, suggesting that the ideal diameter would be even smaller. This might be a way of going effectively below it. Clearly (to a point) back pressure is giving them more benefits than trouble.
Maybe not back pressure as much increasing exhaust velocity offering more aero advantage for the upwash they're utilizing?

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dot235 wrote:
enkidu1978 wrote:
radosav wrote:Found this on other forums, the guy who recorded it says Fernando on last day of his test did this many times. He would take last corner very fast than on straight he would slow don on dirty side then accelerate again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoLGES1G_U
Very strange, lap time to fast maybe? Wishful thinking I know.

He's testing acceleration and/or traction most prob.

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I'am curious why McL haven't really done a competitive lap. I know it's just testing, but it still very much has commercial side to it. Being at the top of the table after such a terrible season would do them only good. And it's not like sandbagging will do anything good for them either. I mean, they aren't fighting with Ferrari, Mercedes, Force India or Williams regardless... So what's there to lose with doing one low fuel full beans lap on US?
Wondering the same thing. Probably it was what others mentioned, they had no actual mileage even from 2015 so they decided to do as many as possible to get valuable data and then start pushing. However, if something goes wrong in-season and they start blowing engines this is gonna cost them. On the other hand, I was expecting them to push the car hard at least in last day of testing, with a good amount of laps under their belt so not to get hurt a lot by a possible engine blow. Maybe they are heavily sandbagging ? Something tells me though that by the end of the season they can be the 3rd best team.

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horse wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcskWS4W4AAztKy.jpg:large

In context, I propose that this is working with the monkey seat, spreading the exhaust plume over a wider operating surface.
EBD have shown that blowing the edges of a downloaded surface is more effective than blowing the center. At the center you just exploit the increased speed of the plume, at the sides you use that speed to stretch the side vortices. The monkey seat on Mclaren has no endplates, to allow the vortices to act on its lower surface

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This definitely looks like trying to hide lap time...is there any way of seeing sector times?

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Maybe they're probably testing deployment of the electrical systems. It looks like a start, but i guess it isn't allowed to stop on track.

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Maybe he's slowing down to 100 km/h, the minum speed requiered to activate the MGU-K, to check the MGU-H to MGU-K deployment. Or maybe I'm wrong. :mrgreen:

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Motorsport.com:
Diffuser : The vertical strakes (the left bank, marked in yellow) which align airflow within and assist in creating the diffusers volume in yaw have been amended. Their shape and angle have been slightly revised but more importantly rather than falling short of the diffuser trailing edge, they now meet with it.
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hollus wrote:
Steven wrote:
Quite interesting that they apparently found that such a big piece inside the exhaust pipe isn't a problem in relation to back pressure on the turbo charger..
Last year all teams had converged on the minimum allowed exhaust diameter, suggesting that the ideal diameter would be even smaller. This might be a way of going effectively below it. Clearly (to a point) back pressure is giving them more benefits than trouble.
The waste gates are also restricted so maybe they are trying to create some kind of additional stress and verfied the reliability of the system.

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Joseki wrote:Maybe he's slowing down to 100 km/h, the minum speed requiered to activate the MGU-K, to check the MGU-H to MGU-K deployment. Or maybe I'm wrong. :mrgreen:
Or simulate a track with a slow last corner folowed by a long straight.
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Does anyone knows Alonso lap 1.24.735 how many laps stint that was?
It was originaly reported 8 laps....and Jenson 1.25.200 (soft) a 10 laps stint, but now Benson is saying it was 4 laps for Alonso?
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GoranF1 wrote:Does anyone knows Alonso lap 1.24.735 how many laps stint that was?
It was originaly reported 8 laps....and Jenson 1.25.200 (soft) a 10 laps stint, but now Benson is saying it was 4 laps for Alonso?
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/stat ... 9761867776