Red Bull RB12 TAG-Heuer

[BreezyRacer]

I think that, given we haven't seen a hint of an S duct during testing that they've found a way around, and correspondingly reduced drag in the process. I'm also a little surprised that they have been running so much without the monkey seat as well.

It seems like the chassis is extremely well balanced, without the need for the tack ons that every other team has to employ.

I think, when they get back to Europe and get the updated PU, they may be occasional podium material.

[novenpeter]

https://www.facebook.com/redbullracing/ ... =1&theater

New front wing, 4 main element

[zioture]

[FoxHound]

And i thought that this was a thread about the rb12 TAG-Heuer !

I knew this was coming.

The engine directly relates to the car. And as the engine will be the same as used by Renault, we can draw comparisons as to whether Red Bull's RB12(and likely their previous 6 iterations)aero concept is as efficient and wonderful as Red Bull have us believe.
Or do Red Bull run with a concept so overly biased on cornering speed downforce it affects their straight-line performance? I'm talking about the entirety of the RB12 concept, not just narrow or steep angled aero appendages that change from track to track.

There are pretty big ramifications here, so it is well worth discussing when it directly relates to the aero of this car.
That's the target, and the Renault link was used as it was a common denominator to use before making some educated( ) assumptions.

[turbof1]

And i thought that this was a thread about the rb12 TAG-Heuer !

I knew this was coming.

The engine directly relates to the car. And as the engine will be the same as used by Renault, we can draw comparisons as to whether Red Bull's RB12(and likely their previous 6 iterations)aero concept is as efficient and wonderful as Red Bull have us believe.
Or do Red Bull run with a concept so overly biased on cornering speed downforce it affects their straight-line performance? I'm talking about the entirety of the RB12 concept, not just narrow or steep angled aero appendages that change from track to track.

There are pretty big ramifications here, so it is well worth discussing when it directly relates to the aero of this car.
That's the target, and the Renault link was used as it was a common denominator to use before making some educated( ) assumptions.

Except the engine has its own thread and the guidelines in the first post of this thread clearly state they belong in that PU topic:

-Discussion about the Power Unit should belong in its respective PU topic. How the car's chassis and bodywork is adapted to it remains in the car thread, but pure features of the PU don't go there. Since this is quite a grey area, we will not remove transgressions on that front, but will move them when appropiate.

Neither does the topic lend itself to some distant comparing between the RS16 and the RB12 just because they have the PU in common, which is just about the only thing they have in common. The final straw is that the discussion is not even highlighting anything about the RB12. A discussion solely about a RS16 in a RB12 topic is what's going on, which is not in line at all with the strict car topic guidelines.

You said it yourself: it is worth and relevant to discuss how the PU directly relates to the aero of the car, which did not happen at all. Instead it yielded a discussion about the RS16 and some arguments based on questionable data like from testing.

So: posts about the engine got moved to the PU topic, while posts not highlighting that got removed.

[Juzh]

I know camera angle is not perfect, but how can RS16 run with so much less hot air exits compared to RB12? Mercedes and ferrari powered cars have some difference between themselves (merc, williams, ferrari, sauber and haas being the tightest by the looks of it) but not nearly as much. Looking at all the cars RB12 has in fact by far the largest cooling exits on the grid.

[fawe4]

I know camera angle is not perfect, but how can RS16 run with so much less hot air exits compared to RB12? Mercedes and ferrari powered cars have some difference between themselves (merc, williams, ferrari, sauber and haas being the tightest by the looks of it) but not nearly as much. Looking at all the cars RB12 has in fact by far the largest cooling exits on the grid.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... edbull.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... enault.jpg

It's just an option they took. Theirs opening's are also very narrow, but they open up at the end. That will do nothing towards better cooling, but it has effect on aerodynamics.

Compare top down pictures to see the difference.

[Blackout]

Better comparison (RS16 is E23)
If RB12 is an evolution of the RB11 then both cars have a similar cooling layout: air-air intercooler at the bottom of each sidepod, engine rad on the top, ERS/gearbox rad at the back of the engine

[gandharva]

Super tiny sidepod air-inlets and great view of rear brakeducts.

[wesley123]

Are they taping off the seams?

[gandharva]

Better comparison (RS16 is E23)
If RB12 is an evolution of the RB11 then both cars have a similar cooling layout: air-air intercooler at the bottom of each sidepod, engine rad on the top, ERS/gearbox rad at the back of the engine
http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/14/79/55/26/hgj1010.jpg

Hehe, RS16 looks like a brick compared to RB12.

Are they taping off the seams?

Yes. But not always.

[AnthonyG]

I don't think there's a team that has the area arround the head support cut out like this. (even taking into account that the yellow pronounces it)

[gandharva]

I don't think there's a team that has the area arround the head support cut out like this. (even taking into account that the yellow pronounces it)

http://s22.postimg.org/jlxyqsu5t/Scherm ... _29_58.png
http://s22.postimg.org/ygmk4z3qp/Scherm ... _30_16.png

Yes, incredibly smooth and detailed.

[tmoneyr007]

Gorgeous

Super tiny sidepod air-inlets and great view of rear brakeducts.
http://abload.de/img/1ddsi7.jpg

http://abload.de/img/2afszz.jpg

http://abload.de/img/38sski.jpg

[ferkan]

Godly packaging Sidepods are just lovely... =D>