2016 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 18-20

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motobaleno
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ollandos wrote:very impressive lap times from alonso i think mclaren is on torro rosso level ....little back from red bull....probably red bull car is the best and can win but no with this engine ..with ferrari 2016 engine red bull can beat mercedes....force india is around this group with williams the best of the rest and very very close to ferrari .....ferrari is not the best ...still behind silver arrows little closer but clear behind.....

mercedes
ferrari 0-0.5sec
williamw 0.2-0.750sec
red bull 0.4-0.900sec
force india 0.4-0.900sec
toro rosso 0.6-1.2sec
mclaren 0.7-1.3sec

and for mclaren ..look like the rear of the car little unstable ...if can fix the set up and take the best of that they have from engine can find some time....if honda can find 40-50hp more can fight for wins
I really wonder how can you make such sharp conclusions from those FP1 and FP2...really astonishing.
some top team should hire you.

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motobaleno wrote:
ollandos wrote:very impressive lap times from alonso i think mclaren is on torro rosso level ....little back from red bull....probably red bull car is the best and can win but no with this engine ..with ferrari 2016 engine red bull can beat mercedes....force india is around this group with williams the best of the rest and very very close to ferrari .....ferrari is not the best ...still behind silver arrows little closer but clear behind.....

mercedes
ferrari 0-0.5sec
williamw 0.2-0.750sec
red bull 0.4-0.900sec
force india 0.4-0.900sec
toro rosso 0.6-1.2sec
mclaren 0.7-1.3sec

and for mclaren ..look like the rear of the car little unstable ...if can fix the set up and take the best of that they have from engine can find some time....if honda can find 40-50hp more can fight for wins
I really wonder how can you make such sharp conclusions from those FP1 and FP2...really astonishing.
some top team should hire you.

its not only from fp ......we all now last year ...and what we wait from anyone.....

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is there any information available which driver has given back what kind of tyres after today's practice? Three sets had to be returned to Pirelli after FP2

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Mr.G
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What that strange noise of Kimis car?
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carisi2k
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motobaleno wrote:
ollandos wrote:very impressive lap times from alonso i think mclaren is on torro rosso level ....little back from red bull....probably red bull car is the best and can win but no with this engine ..with ferrari 2016 engine red bull can beat mercedes....force india is around this group with williams the best of the rest and very very close to ferrari .....ferrari is not the best ...still behind silver arrows little closer but clear behind.....

mercedes
ferrari 0-0.5sec
williamw 0.2-0.750sec
red bull 0.4-0.900sec
force india 0.4-0.900sec
toro rosso 0.6-1.2sec
mclaren 0.7-1.3sec

and for mclaren ..look like the rear of the car little unstable ...if can fix the set up and take the best of that they have from engine can find some time....if honda can find 40-50hp more can fight for wins
I really wonder how can you make such sharp conclusions from those FP1 and FP2...really astonishing.
some top team should hire you.
These numbers are completly pointless because while Mercedes is fastest. Ferrari did no dry running whatsoever so nobody knows where their pace is and neither did Williams. Only Hamilton, Both Red Bull Dani's, Hulkenberg and Verstappen did a relevant dry time and Kyvat was only 0.4 seconds off Hamilton on the same tyre. Danny ric did his time on a medium tyre in the first session. If it is dry in Melbourne today you will have your answer then.

What I will say is that the RB12 looks to have a huge amount of downforce and the new engine seems to be good enough to let the drivers push although slightly slower then Mercedes in dry conditions. The merc looks better with the old wing then the new s duct wing.

The Torro rosso and Force india look almost identical in speed. I don't think you can glean much from any of the other teams except that Mclaren is faster then the Renault which looks awful and Wehrlein could trouble the Sauber purely on his speed alone.

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carisi2k wrote:
motobaleno wrote:
ollandos wrote:very impressive lap times from alonso i think mclaren is on torro rosso level ....little back from red bull....probably red bull car is the best and can win but no with this engine ..with ferrari 2016 engine red bull can beat mercedes....force india is around this group with williams the best of the rest and very very close to ferrari .....ferrari is not the best ...still behind silver arrows little closer but clear behind.....

mercedes
ferrari 0-0.5sec
williamw 0.2-0.750sec
red bull 0.4-0.900sec
force india 0.4-0.900sec
toro rosso 0.6-1.2sec
mclaren 0.7-1.3sec

and for mclaren ..look like the rear of the car little unstable ...if can fix the set up and take the best of that they have from engine can find some time....if honda can find 40-50hp more can fight for wins
I really wonder how can you make such sharp conclusions from those FP1 and FP2...really astonishing.
some top team should hire you.
These numbers are completly pointless because while Mercedes is fastest. Ferrari did no dry running whatsoever so nobody knows where their pace is and neither did Williams. Only Hamilton, Both Red Bull Dani's, Hulkenberg and Verstappen did a relevant dry time and Kyvat was only 0.4 seconds off Hamilton on the same tyre. Danny ric did his time on a medium tyre in the first session. If it is dry in Melbourne today you will have your answer then.

What I will say is that the RB12 looks to have a huge amount of downforce and the new engine seems to be good enough to let the drivers push although slightly slower then Mercedes in dry conditions. The merc looks better with the old wing then the new s duct wing.

The Torro rosso and Force india look almost identical in speed. I don't think you can glean much from any of the other teams except that Mclaren is faster then the Renault which looks awful and Wehrlein could trouble the Sauber purely on his speed alone.
none of the points you made are based on any solid evidence either : ) changing conditions in practice when half the field refuses to run is not the place to make conclusions about which team is faster than the other... one more day and we will at least have a few things we will be able to hang our hat on....they all have to push in qualifying... there will be no excuses then

justmoi
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NO RAIN!! FP3

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Now let's start to gleam a few of those 'answers'

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Wow the mercedes looks like its chewing up the rears while running supersofts.. dont know fuel load though so who knows

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Chew chew!
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

justmoi
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^Lol

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based on Merc's first SS run, I think they did a first stint simulation based on the laps and tire wear.
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ME4ME
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Toro Rosso massivly quick. Especially Sainz.

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motobaleno wrote:
ollandos wrote:very impressive lap times from alonso i think mclaren is on torro rosso level ....little back from red bull....probably red bull car is the best and can win but no with this engine ..with ferrari 2016 engine red bull can beat mercedes....force india is around this group with williams the best of the rest and very very close to ferrari .....ferrari is not the best ...still behind silver arrows little closer but clear behind.....

mercedes
ferrari 0-0.5sec
williamw 0.2-0.750sec
red bull 0.4-0.900sec
force india 0.4-0.900sec
toro rosso 0.6-1.2sec
mclaren 0.7-1.3sec

and for mclaren ..look like the rear of the car little unstable ...if can fix the set up and take the best of that they have from engine can find some time....if honda can find 40-50hp more can fight for wins
I really wonder how can you make such sharp conclusions from those FP1 and FP2...really astonishing.
some top team should hire you.

except torro rosso my prediction is a clear picture of fp3 .......where is my job?? :mrgreen: ......