McLaren MP4-31 Honda

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High res images of Alonsos crashed car from f1fanatic:
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You can see the new waste gate layouts and how the pillar goes through the exhaust. Different solution from HAAS that has split the exhaust in two tubes to bypass the pillar, whilst McLaren simply has a wedge in the single tube.

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What was all that gold liquid coming from Alonsos radiators when he crashed?

I didn't expect there to be only clear water in radiators but it's an interesting colour.

Here is a good sequence of pictures showing the stuff...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... 42961.html
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A pity we can't see the turbo layout.

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https://vid.me/YK1V

alonso onboard

loosing 1-2 sec for save fuel .........with ss ...... :o :o :( #-o #-o

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I don't get it. Where exactly was he saving fuel?

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He did lift and cost, but i don't think he did it more than any other driver. Early in the race there was a onboard of Hamilton lift and costing into every corner.

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ollandos wrote:https://vid.me/YK1V

alonso onboard

loosing 1-2 sec for save fuel .........with ss ...... :o :o :( #-o #-o
engine sounds much better than last year
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Alonso Fan wrote:
ollandos wrote:https://vid.me/YK1V

alonso onboard

loosing 1-2 sec for save fuel .........with ss ...... :o :o :( #-o #-o
engine sounds much better than last year
If he was loosing 1s or 2 s the cars in front would be a bit further at the end of the lap, don't you think?

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Redragon wrote:
Alonso Fan wrote:
ollandos wrote:https://vid.me/YK1V

alonso onboard

loosing 1-2 sec for save fuel .........with ss ...... :o :o :( #-o #-o
engine sounds much better than last year
If he was loosing 1s or 2 s the cars in front would be a bit further at the end of the lap, don't you think?

Yeah looks to me like he was catching some people
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Off Topic but man he was lucky. Which leads me to say to Hamilton and Hulkenberg SHUT THE HELL UP. Any effort to make cars more safe is good, regardless whether it looks sexy or not! Gee, horrendous.

Thank God and bless everyone who put such effort to build such robust and safe cars. :-| :-| :-|
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I have been thinking about this accident and have concluded that the severity was increased by the side impact protection digging into the gravel trap and sending the car airborne. I am of the opinion that the crash would have been less serious, at least the car would not have been airborne, should there have been tarmac in the runoff area.

From my perspective, there has not been enough thought from the FIA about the interaction of the side impact bars with gravel traps. The focus has been hard perpendicular surfaces.

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Redragon wrote:
Alonso Fan wrote:
ollandos wrote:https://vid.me/YK1V

alonso onboard

loosing 1-2 sec for save fuel .........with ss ...... :o :o :( #-o #-o
engine sounds much better than last year
If he was loosing 1s or 2 s the cars in front would be a bit further at the end of the lap, don't you think?

car in front is force india with soft tyres not ss .....
clearly saving fuel and tyres ....

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ergenomic wrote:I have been thinking about this accident and have concluded that the severity was increased by the side impact protection digging into the gravel trap and sending the car airborne. I am of the opinion that the crash would have been less serious, at least the car would not have been airborne, should there have been tarmac in the runoff area.

From my perspective, there has not been enough thought from the FIA about the interaction of the side impact bars with gravel traps. The focus has been hard perpendicular surfaces.
My thoughts exactly. Had the gravel trap not been there, I imagine the crash would have been similar to:
Verstappen and grosjean at Monaco
Massa and Perez at Canada
Perez at Monaco 2011

It still would have been high speed, but no barrel rolls
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McG wrote:What was all that gold liquid coming from Alonsos radiators when he crashed?

I didn't expect there to be only clear water in radiators but it's an interesting colour.

Here is a good sequence of pictures showing the stuff...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... 42961.html
Maybe they're using that waterless coolant?
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godlameroso wrote:
McG wrote:What was all that gold liquid coming from Alonsos radiators when he crashed?

I didn't expect there to be only clear water in radiators but it's an interesting colour.

Here is a good sequence of pictures showing the stuff...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... 42961.html
Maybe they're using that waterless coolant?

Never heard of it.
Finally, everyone knows that Red Bull is a joke and Max Verstappen is overrated.