2016 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 18-20

[Andres125sx]

Except Grosjean didn´t change direction twice as Esteban did


BTW, before you start saying I´m spanish and I´m biased, that´s the conclusion they got in Sky, british TV. Gutierrez moved the wheel left when he shouldn´t. They draw a line on the onboard camera over the wheel to notice any movement, and it´s easy to see how he moved the wheel left just before the impact

Esteban was on the inside defending his line, then moved back to the racing line for the corner....where's the problem with that?

F1 rules, he first moved to the inner line when Alonso was in his slipstream, then to the outer line when Alonso tried to move to the outer line. Two direction changes, banned in the regulations exactly to prevent this sort of accidents

[timekiller001]

Vary strange...

Alonso din`t receive any penalty for his "Maldonado style" crash. Because of "his" red flag Ferrari and Vettel did`t win.

Alonso is to blame and should receive grid penalty.

That was very far away from Maldonado style. It was a mixture of Alonso trying to maximize slipstream (-> getting out of it as late as possible), Gutierrez in normal race (and not defense) mode plus the usual energy harvesting.

Except Grosjean didn´t change direction twice as Esteban did


BTW, before you start saying I´m spanish and I´m biased, that´s the conclusion they got in Sky, british TV. Gutierrez moved the wheel left when he shouldn´t. They draw a line on the onboard camera over the wheel to notice any movement, and it´s easy to see how he moved the wheel left just before the impact

Esteban was on the inside defending his line, then moved back to the racing line for the corner....where's the problem with that?

F1 rules, he first moved to the inner line when Alonso was in his slipstream, then to the outer line when Alonso tried to move to the outer line. Two direction changes, banned in the regulations exactly to prevent this sort of accidents

He never went to the inner line. Since the straight has a very small bend to the right, he stayed on his line the whole time (you can actually see that since he always has the same gap to the white lines before until 1sec before or so). Just shortly before the crash he goes more to the left since he is on the racing line heading for the corner.

[dot235]

Like I said and like it was reported, Alonso's crash for the big part was supposedly caused by malfunctioning Ferrari EPU software. It started recovering the energy and therefore slowing down literally just before the crash.
But I still find his steering inputs back towards Gutierrez uncalled for.

[iotar__]

Vary strange...

Alonso din`t receive any penalty for his "Maldonado style" crash. Because of "his" red flag Ferrari and Vettel did`t win.

Alonso is to blame and should receive grid penalty.

That was very far away from Maldonado style. It was a mixture of Alonso trying to maximize slipstream (-> getting out of it as late as possible), Gutierrez in normal race (and not defense) mode plus the usual energy harvesting.

- "Maximizing slipstream"up to a driver and no different to any other overtake incident, weak excuse.
- "the usual energy harvesting." - not usual if it's usual another weak excuse
- What is exactly this Maldonado's style? Is it any different to Hamilton's , Raikkonen's or Alonso's when they crash? The one difference is they get away without penalties. Which style was Alonso's crash in Abu Dhabi, how about the style of one race ban? Three in a row and he should get one.

Another example of penalising based on a name, a team and not events. BTW don't you think it's a bit unfair to not only drag another driver but also the one that's not racing in F1? You should find someone else, I suggest counting crashes (Ricciardo, Raikkonen) and penalty points (Verstappen). Although a person who tried earlier to hype one mediocre Palmer's race as better than the whole Maldonado's career beat you in that regard.
"by dot235 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:57 pm Alonso's crash for the big part was caused by malfunctioning Ferrari EPU software. It started recovering the energy and therefore slowing down literally just before the crash."
Fine, how malfunctioning, in numbers? Only this event , the whole race. How big a part? What were the other parts, Alonso's driving perhaps? Remember Perez Canada '14. his car was very much malfunctioning, although admittedly it's not the same.

[Soichiro]

If you unemotionaly take a look at the video you will see that the Haas driver lift off and Alonso obviously did not expect it at that point - as the change in speed was sudden. Alonso could have turned left a bit earlier and the other driver could have braked a tad later. Not much to see really except for the consequence (crash) I guess.

[dot235]

If you unemotionaly take a look at the video you will see that the Haas driver lift off and Alonso obviously did not expect it at that point - as the change in speed was sudden. Alonso could have turned left a bit earlier and the other driver could have braked a tad later. Not much to see really except for the consequence (crash) I guess.

Like I said and like it was reported, Alonso's crash for the big part was supposedly caused by malfunctioning Ferrari EPU software. It started recovering the energyand therefore slowed the car down literally just before the crash.

source: Auto Motor und Sport

[timekiller001]

Well, let's not forget that Gutierrez did report an engine problem over team radio which was aired on TV.

[flickerf1]

Full Onboard of Australian GP from multiple POV's. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbwfq6Bear0

[hemichromis]

I've just realised:

Last year Daniel Ricciardo was lapped in 6th place.
This year Jenson Button was only lapped by Rosberg at the very last corner and he was 14th!

Shows how close the pack is this year.

Formula 1 is about to get exciting again and not because of Bernie and the FIAs meddling!

[holeindalip]

I've just realised:

Last year Daniel Ricciardo was lapped in 6th place.
This year Jenson Button was only lapped by Rosberg at the very last corner and he was 14th!

Shows how close the pack is this year.

Formula 1 is about to get exciting again and not because of Bernie and the FIAs meddling!

The red flag bunched the field back together so effectively the race was 18 laps shorter so it's hard to tell based on lapped positions this year

[Chene_Mostert]

I've just realised:

Last year Daniel Ricciardo was lapped in 6th place.
This year Jenson Button was only lapped by Rosberg at the very last corner and he was 14th!

Shows how close the pack is this year.

Formula 1 is about to get exciting again and not because of Bernie and the FIAs meddling!

Yes, red flag during a race does tend to bring the field closer.

[holeindalip]

And rosberg wasn't on the optimum strategy either

[Chuckjr]

Ferrari better get their long running on mediums sorted -- if there are any issues. I've a feeling this is not the last of the races when we see Merc doing ultra-long running on mediums the second half of races...

[Pany]

Because I watched the Grand prix all weekend and it was clear to see that this is the case. Renault powered cars finished 4th, 11th and 12th and the only McHonda left finished 14th. Ricciardo was able to pass a Williams Mercedes twice with DRS which would not have been remotely possible 12 months ago (regardless of whether he had a softer tyre or not) and the Renault of Palmer held off the Torro Rosso's with the superior 2015 Ferrari engine for quite some time.

Renault have made progress, although not enough to catch up to Mercedes or Ferrari. they have certainly put enough performance into the PU to make it the third best unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spoo4V6GcgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Ovqgan3Bw

I agree however with what you're saying. Renault is probably slightly ahead of Honda at the moment. Although the full extent of it has yet to be seen. Bahrain probably gives a more complete picture of relative performance.

In these videos we must recognise the great contribute given by Ricciardo drive. He is at top level, better than Alonso (actually he is the one taking his Heritage, since drive in very similar way), better then Vettel (fully demonstrated) and maybe at same level of Hamilton. With better Engine (is sufficient 40 HP less then MErcedes and Ferrari) he could win certainly. Last top driver at same level will be Verstappen, now too Young. The Other drivers are not Top, according to me.

[djos]

In these videos we must recognise the great contribute given by Ricciardo drive. He is at top level, better than Alonso (actually he is the one taking his Heritage, since drive in very similar way), better then Vettel (fully demonstrated) and maybe at same level of Hamilton. With better Engine (is sufficient 40 HP less then MErcedes and Ferrari) he could win certainly. Last top driver at same level will be Verstappen, now too Young. The Other drivers are not Top, according to me.

Alonso himself has told the us that he thinks Dan is WDC material - that's pretty high praise from someone of his calibre imo!

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/motors ... ys-alonso/

“He has a great future. Australia you have to be very proud because he will be winning the world championship sooner or later.”

“Apart from his driving skills, he’s a funny guy and very open. A great character in the paddock.”