PlatinumZealot wrote:They drivers have to give back some tangible commercial return to the brand before they can leave. RedBull is all about marketing and they won't give you a free ride just for you to dump them and drive for a rival. Vettel could switch because he did his fair part of the deal alright.
Last year, as Red bull threatened to leave and fire any driver who didn't perform well, i would have disagreed.FrukostScones wrote:Btw, just google the issue... RB wants himto stay, they are clauses, he might leave... But If I was him I would definitely stay at RB for 2017, especially with that big rule change coming.
RB normally was very good with aero rule changes. see 2009 or 1998 eh.. I mean if Newey is on still giving his input( what he defo will)... even with a 2017 Renault engine.
But not with a Honda or that bastard of evil Ecclestone Budget-engine. blasphemy that would be with the latter, cheap bought title. Worth an arcade token.
You know that TAG Heuer do absolutely nothing with that engine other than put their branding on it?hemichromis wrote:Also Renault's engine development is looking good TAG Heuer are doing a great job tuning it.
You are wrong!j2004p wrote:You know that TAG Heuer do absolutely nothing with that engine other than put their branding on it?hemichromis wrote:Also Renault's engine development is looking good TAG Heuer are doing a great job tuning it.
Joking aside, you do know that TAG is not allowed to make hardware changes? It is still treated as a Renault engine by regulation. The only thing Red Bull and TAG may do, is software optimization. Without altering the EC of course.hemichromis wrote:You are wrong!j2004p wrote:You know that TAG Heuer do absolutely nothing with that engine other than put their branding on it?hemichromis wrote:Also Renault's engine development is looking good TAG Heuer are doing a great job tuning it.
Watches, Engines, MGU-Hs, MGU-Ks, Turbos, TAG Heuer can make anything!
They are also working on a flying pig if memory serves...
Probably marketing. Red Bull is not a commercial engine/car builder and don't have any fame for building engines for racing they can exploit. So in the hypothetical "what if" case where Red Bull would have build their own PU, they could rent out the rights to a company for putting the latter's name on it. TAG has history as an engine builder, although to clarify that's not the same company as the current TAG-Heuer. TAG-Heuer gets the marketing, and Red Bull royalties in return.hemichromis wrote:Oh yes, I looked into that in detail when there were rumours about a 'Red bull' engine.
I was disappointed to learn that Red bull couldn't do it and so the rumours were made of straw.
Of course that means Tag Heuer couldn't though i'm not sure why they'd want to.
It doesn't, but then again: participating in F1 generally does not make sense either. I guess Red Bull can do it quicker if they opened up their wallet, went on a hiring spree and potentially tried to dissect things like fuels, oils, etc. Then again: they are clearly not interested in it.hemichromis wrote:Out of 4 Manufacturers only 1 got it right at the start, one is 2 years later finally getting it's act together, the other 2 may take another year to get to the same standard of PU
So if Red bull started developing an engine now we could say they would have a 25% chance of having a strong engine in 3 years time.
It makes no sense at all.
Anyway Renault with 25 tokens remaining look to have made good progress over the winter.
