Ferrari F1 team principal Maurizio Arrivabene and star driver Sebastian Vettel insist they can handle the pressure from Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne. Arrivabene went as far as saying he doesn't expect anything else from a president.
Vettels take on the race from motorsport.com:
Unlike race winner Max Verstappen and teammate Kimi Raikkonen, Vettel opted to stop three times, a strategy that ended up being slower than two stops.
"You could see for Daniel [Ricciardo] and myself that a three-stop wasn't superior.
we were quicker than the Red Bulls on the softs, around half a second, and on mediums same pace, not enough to create something.
Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was a clear reason, defending the inside for the next right hander. Only thing you can blame ROS for is closing the door a bit late. But stating it like you did means you don't understand much about racing.
Yeah many people "don't understand much about racing" as always, can we just speak about the incident ! ROS closed the door too slow and not on the racing line. That's clear if someone should be reprimanded it is Rosberg no one else why ? Wrong setting, wrong move, no need to be graduated on racing.
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To me it's all $$$. The only Red Bull news we had these past 2 weeks were all about Red Bull and Max and that have create excitement + extra $$$. Think about it:
- Max driving his first race for Red Bull
- Max becoming first Dutchman to win in F1
- Max becoming the youngest race winner
All that add together = More exposure for Red Bull + Red Bull and Max in the spotlights = $$$
I think they have thought about it once the Mercs were out of the race and that the result was exactly what they wanted.
About Lewis and Nico. Its' difficult. One made a mistake by being in the wrong engine mode, whereas the other was maybe too aggressive? The gap was there until Nico shut it totally. To be honest it's a strange line to be in as the leading car towards turn 4, knowing that if Lewis took the racing line into 4, he would be on the inside of Rosberg for turn 5.
Thinking of it Engine modes... It's incredible how much an engine mode change does performance wise? The difference in speed between the two Mercs on different engine modes was dramatically noticeable. Having seen analysis on Sky, I believe this is maybe race incident and perhaps also Nico over aggressively trying to defend his position all the while when he was recovering his mistake by changing back to the right engine mode mid corner. For me that's dangerous changing engine modes mid corner. You could say Nico was texting while driving for example. I put this on Nico for making mistakes going through the right starting procedures and because he wasn't fully aware Lewis had made the move and he was just desperately to close that gap. It's my opinion.
Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was also no reason for Lewis to drive on the AstroTurf.
sure there was, it was the only place he could go to try and avoid driving directly into Rosberg
Rosberg was stuttering like crazy in his interview with Rachel from Sky. He basically just said what was stuffed into his brain by the team...
He admitted though that he was in the wrong engine mode, but also insisted that it didn't effect his concentration - which I don't agree with.
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Chene_Mostert wrote:Just had a look at the start again, something I missed, Lewis was very annoyed with himself, he chucked his steering. It actually went quite far.
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was a clear reason, defending the inside for the next right hander. Only thing you can blame ROS for is closing the door a bit late. But stating it like you did means you don't understand much about racing.
lol now i dont know racing..... give me a break!push your temmate off the track because you got an engine setting wrong? really? thats good clean racing? He caused the contact by tring to slam the door on Hamilton forcing him off the track... its poetic justice that hamilton spun and wiped out Rosberg. He knew he was down 180Hp and he knew hamilton was going to blow by him...knowing all that i put the blame squarely on Rosberg. He could have left Hamilton room on the track knowing that he was waaaay slower.....
John192 wrote:Sky reporting no penalty for Ros or Ham
Stewards are a joke. I knew that was coming.
Since no other team had a disadvantage but Merc and their drivers it makes sense not to penalise a driver although I think ROS would've got a penalty if it was with a RBR driver instead of HAM. Especially when Merc nor the drivers were insisting for a penalty.
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Shrieker wrote:I think it's clear cut, Rosberg chose the wrong settings, and while attempting to change them coming out of turn 3, saw Hamilton too late - a lot later than he should have - and kept closing the gap in a hurry even when Hamilton's front wing AND front wheel was well alongside.
If Lewis hadn't taken to the grass Rosberg would've hit him right there.
No part of Lewis' car was "alongside" Rosberg's car, he poked his front wing into a non existent gap on the inside of Rosberg's rear tyre. If it was not for Lewis loosing control on the AstroTurf he would've ended up with a broken front wing and Romberg with a possible puncture... Racing incident caused by over optimistic overtaking attempt.
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GPR-A wrote:One of the cleanest shot. Look at Lewis' steering and he is ready to go left, but Nico kept closing the door, despite having Lewis almost next to him. Nico had poor pace out of that turn and Lewis came blazing in. Clearly, Nico's fault.
The front wing is alongside and so is the front wheel. At that point Rosberg should've stopped squeezing him.
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giantfan10 wrote:
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was also no reason for Lewis to drive on the AstroTurf.
sure there was, it was the only place he could go to try and avoid driving directly into Rosberg
Brake paddle would be a far better place to go to. But you can just ignore that.
The strategic work from both Red Bull and Ferrari was rather poor. Most of the decisions for pitstops were compromised. Ricciardo's first stop was extremely early considering laps were run under a safety car. I can only assume they were scared of the undercut to the point of pre-empting it. Fairly desperate to be honest.
Ferrari then did a really odd stint length for Vettel that completely compromised his ability to win, but did give him an opportunity to jump Ricciardo.
Raikkonen... I feel Kimi really did his best here and the team could have done more to try to offset his tyre life relative to Verstappen. There was no need to bring him in immediately. Verstappen had the undercut. It would have been better to leave him out for a few additional laps in the hope that the tyre life offset would give him some scope to pass. That, or pitting him before Verstappen, giving him Soft tyres, and runnign an extra Soft stint at the end.
I think Verstappen inherited some luck today, in the sense that both Vettel and Ricciardo drove each other into poor strategic choices, and track position was such a huge premium. Other than that, he was faultless. I think he locked a wheel once into turn 10, which gave Raikkonen less than half a chance to overtake. It's also worth noting that he was actually catching Ricciardo at the end of the first stint, so perhaps he was simply faster.
Is he legally allowed to drink in Spain?
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giantfan10 wrote:
Lewis may have been annoyed with Rosberg.... why would you do that to your teammate? there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton
There was a clear reason, defending the inside for the next right hander. Only thing you can blame ROS for is closing the door a bit late. But stating it like you did means you don't understand much about racing.
lol now i dont know racing..... give me a break!push your temmate off the track because you got an engine setting wrong? really? thats good clean racing? He caused the contact by tring to slam the door on Hamilton forcing him off the track... its poetic justice that hamilton spun and wiped out Rosberg. He knew he was down 180Hp and he knew hamilton was going to blow by him...knowing all that i put the blame squarely on Rosberg. He could have left Hamilton room on the track knowing that he was waaaay slower.....
Quoting yourself in case you forgot what you said and what I wa refering to.
" there was no reason for Rosberg to be on the far right of the track for the coming right hander but to block Hamilton" Giantfan10
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GPR-A wrote:One of the cleanest shot. Look at Lewis' steering and he is ready to go left, but Nico kept closing the door, despite having Lewis almost next to him. Nico had poor pace out of that turn and Lewis came blazing in. Clearly, Nico's fault.
GPR-A wrote:One of the cleanest shot. Look at Lewis' steering and he is ready to go left, but Nico kept closing the door, despite having Lewis almost next to him. Nico had poor pace out of that turn and Lewis came blazing in. Clearly, Nico's fault.
The front wing is alongside and so is the front wheel. At that point Rosberg should've stopped squeezing him.
Only 'Alongside' is not enough. The time at which he was along side is equally important. Rosberg started the move as soon as he exited the corner. With that speed difference, Lewis could have easily passed Nico around the outside, but he just kep going where Rosberg was going. Trying to go to a point on track where a car is already going, will always lead to accident. If someone was not paying attention, it was Lewis. He should have known that he can easily get past through the left side with that speed difference, which he did not, and it was silly.
