2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[chenpei24730]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/2 ... test-laps/

Button had an edge in the first 20 laps, then it seems alo's pace was better until he retired. With so many variables I dont know how the team will draw any conclusion on the new FW.

ALO was blocked by BUT, let's say ALO is 0.3s faster than BUT, if ALO is behind BUT, then ALO may finish just behind BUT. If ALO can pass BUT, ALO may be 20 seconds ahead of BUT when he cross the line.

So the race is over for ALO after the first corner.

[zeph]

The realistic scenario is still, that they will finish in the points after very good races or races with many crashes. Just a good performance is still not enough for points.

I'm afraid that's about the size of it. They seem sixth-best on a good day, and lower than that on an average day.

I've kind of given up on McLaren-Honda improving materially this season. But I hope they'll prove me wrong.

[GoranF1]

I read somewhere that for some reason Alonso fell 5 sec behind Button after one of the pitstops...he than laped 0.8-0.9 faster and cought Button in 6 laps...he then moved back and kept 3 sec or so gap....

[proteus]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/2 ... test-laps/

Button had an edge in the first 20 laps, then it seems alo's pace was better until he retired. With so many variables I dont know how the team will draw any conclusion on the new FW.

ALO was blocked by BUT, let's say ALO is 0.3s faster than BUT, if ALO is behind BUT, then ALO may finish just behind BUT. If ALO can pass BUT, ALO may be 20 seconds ahead of BUT when he cross the line.

So the race is over for ALO after the first corner.

Oh come on...If Alonso was so much faster than Button, he would overtake Button...Alonso fans allways trying to find excuses when Alonso does not deliver...

Button in my opinion drove a superb race, being infront of Williams of Massa and more than fast enough to be infront of Alonso. Somehow he dropped his pace in the middle of the race (l30-l45, saving fuel and maybe even tyres) and then picked it up again, overtaking Gutierrez at the end and being as fast as the 2 race leaders, and staying infront of Vettel and Ricciardo which were even on fresher tyres if im not mistaken, which enabled him to retain 9th position against super fast Kvyat in that moment.

As the season looks so far Alonso may pick up few higher positions, but in the end Button may again collect more points with getting a point or two per race.

[proteus]

I read somewhere that for some reason Alonso fell 5 sec behind Button after one of the pitstops...he than laped 0.8-0.9 faster and cought Button in 6 laps...he then moved back and kept 3 sec or so gap....

I think they were saving fuel and tyres in different times. As u wrote, i guess Alonso was first which allowed Button to get some advantage and then he followed, allowing Alonso to get close again. There was definetly something going on in the middle of the race, because at first Massa was not able to overtake Alonso and Button, but than he was able to get past with no serious problem.

[Thunder]

Still too much Fuel saving kills Race Pace. Once that gets better i am hopeful. I expected them to do a little better this Weekend. Fred pulling away from Massa in S2/S3 was good to see at the beginning of the Race. So the Chassis is definitely getting there. Merc/RB are still ahead but i think Ferrari is in reach. (Note i'm ONLY talking about the Chassis here)

Honda just have to get the Upgrades going as fast as possible. Better Efficiency and Top End Power are needed.

Button seems indifferent on the Front Wing. The Team says it's better. So maybe just a matter of setting up the Car in the right Way for the new Parts.

Let's hope for some 2 good Days of Testing and some good Points in Monaco.....

[Vasconia]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/2 ... test-laps/

Button had an edge in the first 20 laps, then it seems alo's pace was better until he retired. With so many variables I dont know how the team will draw any conclusion on the new FW.

ALO was blocked by BUT, let's say ALO is 0.3s faster than BUT, if ALO is behind BUT, then ALO may finish just behind BUT. If ALO can pass BUT, ALO may be 20 seconds ahead of BUT when he cross the line.

So the race is over for ALO after the first corner.

Oh come on...If Alonso was so much faster than Button, he would overtake Button...Alonso fans allways trying to find excuses when Alonso does not deliver...

I think he was faster but not so faster, this race showed once again that you need to be much faster than the other car if you want to overtake it. A few tenths are not enough.

Moreover his race was compromised by a bad start so he can show his fustration but he failed doing a bad start.

Monaco is where they need to shine.

[mclaren111]

With Mobil bringing new fuel in Canada, Honda should look at new combustion upgrade for better efficiency & hopefully more power [-o< [-o< [-o<

[diffuser]

Still too much Fuel saving kills Race Pace. Once that gets better i am hopeful. I expected them to do a little better this Weekend. Fred pulling away from Massa in S2/S3 was good to see at the beginning of the Race. So the Chassis is definitely getting there. Merc/RB are still ahead but i think Ferrari is in reach. (Note i'm ONLY talking about the Chassis here)

Honda just have to get the Upgrades going as fast as possible. Better Efficiency and Top End Power are needed.

Button seems indifferent on the Front Wing. The Team says it's better. So maybe just a matter of setting up the Car in the right Way for the new Parts.

Let's hope for some 2 good Days of Testing and some good Points in Monaco.....

I think the chassis is alot better than it looks. Simply cause they're not running max downforce to compensate for lack of power. EB said it this past weekend that they would run more DF if they had more power from the PU.

As far as the PU is concerned, they're making progress but it will not be this year. They keep saying that the Honda PU is better than Renault but I see RB running a ton of Rear wing.

[Vasconia]

No one can believe that. Renault has made a great step forward and they will bring another important update soon. So I hope Honda´s update is big as Everest because they will need it.

[chenpei24730]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/15/2 ... test-laps/

Button had an edge in the first 20 laps, then it seems alo's pace was better until he retired. With so many variables I dont know how the team will draw any conclusion on the new FW.

ALO was blocked by BUT, let's say ALO is 0.3s faster than BUT, if ALO is behind BUT, then ALO may finish just behind BUT. If ALO can pass BUT, ALO may be 20 seconds ahead of BUT when he cross the line.

So the race is over for ALO after the first corner.

Oh come on...If Alonso was so much faster than Button, he would overtake Button...Alonso fans allways trying to find excuses when Alonso does not deliver...

Button in my opinion drove a superb race, being infront of Williams of Massa and more than fast enough to be infront of Alonso. Somehow he dropped his pace in the middle of the race (l30-l45, saving fuel and maybe even tyres) and then picked it up again, overtaking Gutierrez at the end and being as fast as the 2 race leaders, and staying infront of Vettel and Ricciardo which were even on fresher tyres if im not mistaken, which enabled him to retain 9th position against super fast Kvyat in that moment.

As the season looks so far Alonso may pick up few higher positions, but in the end Button may again collect more points with getting a point or two per race.

0.3s is not enough to overtake. That's it.

[Sayeman]

Mclaren isn't gonna catch Redbull no matter what update Honda brings. They haven't been able to catch RBR since 2009.
But a .3 second improvement can help them overtake toro rosso. and williams who seems to be falling behind.

[DiogoBrand]

Mclaren isn't gonna catch Redbull no matter what update Honda brings. They haven't been able to catch RBR since 2009.
But a .3 second improvement can help them overtake toro rosso. and williams who seems to be falling behind.

Nobody's saying they'll catch Red Bull, what we expect is that Honda catches Renault. At least.

[CjC]

Danny Ric and Ocon seem optimistic about the new Renault PU
I hope the upgrade to the honda PU by all parties are substantial enough to keep the works Renault behind. [-o<
Renault aren't that far behind Mclaren on a race lap time with the old spec

[zeph]

I'm actually expecting Renault to improve by much more than Honda. I think their PU can one-up Ferrari before the end of the season.

McLaren-Honda need a miracle for 2017.