Team: James Allison (TD), Simone Resta (CD), Corrado Lanzone (Head of production), Loic Bigois (HA), Dirk De Beer (HA), Jock Clear (ED), Mattia Binotto (HE), Rory Byrne (Tech Advisor), Massimo Rivola (SD), Maurizio Arrivabene (TP), Sergio Marchionne (Chairman)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (5), Kimi Raikkonen (7)
I think they're probably just behind due to four years spent pursuing a push rod solution.ferkan wrote:Can anyone say what couls be a reason for Ferrari having such a thick front wishbones, especially compared to RB and Merc?
Thats what I thought. Their nose is also less extreme version of thumb stlye nose then RBs, and sidepod undercut is not as prominent as well. Wishbone design placement is less aero "friendly" then either Merc or RB. There are many little thinga that explain where Ferrari currently are unfortunately.bhall II wrote:I think they're probably just behind due to four years spent pursuing a push rod solution.ferkan wrote:Can anyone say what couls be a reason for Ferrari having such a thick front wishbones, especially compared to RB and Merc?
Well...ferkan wrote:Thats what I thought. Their nose is also less extreme version of thumb stlye nose then RBs, and sidepod undercut is not as prominent as well. Wishbone design placement is less aero "friendly" then either Merc or RB. There are many little thinga that explain where Ferrari currently are unfortunately.
some of the speculation here is amazing at best... so running a push rod for four years is why ferrari allegedly has a thicker front wishbone? ... they have less of an undercut and a different nose..... do some of you read the stuff you post?ferkan wrote:Thats what I thought. Their nose is also less extreme version of thumb stlye nose then RBs, and sidepod undercut is not as prominent as well. Wishbone design placement is less aero "friendly" then either Merc or RB. There are many little thinga that explain where Ferrari currently are unfortunately.bhall II wrote:I think they're probably just behind due to four years spent pursuing a push rod solution.ferkan wrote:Can anyone say what couls be a reason for Ferrari having such a thick front wishbones, especially compared to RB and Merc?
No, I never mentioned that running a pull rod for 4 years is the reason for it, it was Bhall who thought it was one explanation of the FACT that Ferrari wishbones are indeed noticeably thicker then RBs. They are also placed in less aero friendly way, disturbing the air more when it passes towards bardgeboards and the back of the car.giantfan10 wrote:some of the speculation here is amazing at best... so running a push rod for four years is why ferrari allegedly has a thicker front wishbone? ... they have less of an undercut and a different nose..... do some of you read the stuff you post?ferkan wrote:Thats what I thought. Their nose is also less extreme version of thumb stlye nose then RBs, and sidepod undercut is not as prominent as well. Wishbone design placement is less aero "friendly" then either Merc or RB. There are many little thinga that explain where Ferrari currently are unfortunately.bhall II wrote: I think they're probably just behind due to four years spent pursuing a push rod solution.
5 races have been ran this year and Ferrari has finished behind red bull in one... results are what count not they have a smaller wishbone or undercut or whatever is fashionable this week.
RBSilent Storm wrote:I don't think its a big difference in thickness between Ferrari and other teams .Thanks to Push rod suspension they are a lot slimmer compared to last year.
Why the change of heart? It wasn't always difficult for you to see that a relatively underdeveloped suspension might be given more robust components as a corrective measure.giantfan10 wrote:some of the speculation here is amazing at best... so running a push rod for four years is why ferrari allegedly has a thicker front wishbone? ... they have less of an undercut and a different nose..... do some of you read the stuff you post?
As far as red bull losing 1 second per engine only.... we will see what the gap is after ferrari changes their suspect turbo for canada. i suspect all the hot air coming out of red bull will put them exactly where they are right now... thirdferkan wrote:No, I never mentioned that running a pull rod for 4 years is the reason for it, it was Bhall who thought it was one explanation of the FACT that Ferrari wishbones are indeed noticeably thicker then RBs. They are also placed in less aero friendly way, disturbing the air more when it passes towards bardgeboards and the back of the car.giantfan10 wrote:some of the speculation here is amazing at best... so running a push rod for four years is why ferrari allegedly has a thicker front wishbone? ... they have less of an undercut and a different nose..... do some of you read the stuff you post?ferkan wrote: Thats what I thought. Their nose is also less extreme version of thumb stlye nose then RBs, and sidepod undercut is not as prominent as well. Wishbone design placement is less aero "friendly" then either Merc or RB. There are many little thinga that explain where Ferrari currently are unfortunately.
5 races have been ran this year and Ferrari has finished behind red bull in one... results are what count not they have a smaller wishbone or undercut or whatever is fashionable this week.
Other thing is, yes sidepods on RB have very big undercut which again means air channels easier towards the back of the car then in Ferrari's case. I'm talking about the part where the central electronic system is, its best seen from the front.
And yes, Ferrari has finished in front pretty much every time. We will see if that is going to continue now that RB is not losing 1 second on engine only.
To be fair, it's not generally a good idea to go around hitting solid objects with your racing car. But, changing temperature is something you can reasonably expect to happen with no input from anyone.edxferrari wrote:i dont know what is happening with ferrari last 2 races positive start of the day in fp3 an q1 then they cant improve in q3 i wonder if this is related to pure traction problem or at the moment ferrari is most affected car by slight change of track temp ?
and all you hailed the slim fornt suspension of RB that is the negative effect a light tuch with barriers bang
