Renault Power Unit Hardware & Software

[carisi2k]

The evidence would suggest otherwise.

http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/29200/29225.3.jpg

Vs

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... edbull.jpg

What evidence. All that you are proving with these photo's is that I am correct and you need to get your eyes checked. Those 2 cars look to have very tight packaging.

Sighs, if you can't see how much narrower the RB12 is then you're the one needing glasses.

No, you really do need glasses. The Red Bull may be a touch narrower in the airbox but the merc is tighter in the rear with a smaller air opening.

[SparkyAMG]

The evidence would suggest otherwise.

http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/29200/29225.3.jpg

Vs

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... edbull.jpg

What evidence. All that you are proving with these photo's is that I am correct and you need to get your eyes checked. Those 2 cars look to have very tight packaging.

Sighs, if you can't see how much narrower the RB12 is then you're the one needing glasses.

The winglets on the back of W07's hot air exits make it look a lot wider than it actually is. The rest of it (apart from around the plenum) is as slim as the RB12 without question.

[djos]

What evidence. All that you are proving with these photo's is that I am correct and you need to get your eyes checked. Those 2 cars look to have very tight packaging.

Sighs, if you can't see how much narrower the RB12 is then you're the one needing glasses.

No, you really do need glasses. The Red Bull may be a touch narrower in the airbox but the merc is tighter in the rear with a smaller air opening.

You are looking in the wrong place, this has been discussed in detail in the main PU thread, go find it.

[Juzh]

Worth nothing Ric was clocked at 293 kmh coming out of the tunnel already in fp2, which is a massive 9 kmh more than any renault car managed last year in qualli, and 7 kmh more than in race conditions last year. That's some serious gains. Probably in the region of at least 50 bhp, possibly more (likely imo).

http://www.fia.com/file/28279/download?token=K7aO6BbZ

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... fication-4
Under the "speed trap" tab.

[toraabe]

Is this at 100kg/hr self sustained mode or 90kg/hr (or whatever the likely race fuel flow) self sustained mode?

50 hp up during the winter + 35 hp up on the new spec
that is 85 hp up compared to last year.
Mercedes were smart on putting their people both on Ferrari and Renault f1 engine departments.
And you can see that the Renault engine at last is where it should have been last year...
So now the biggest looser is Toro Rosso.

http://www.formel1.de/news/news/2016-05 ... ate-bringt

yes as Pierre godof and most ex renault engineer works out for amg since 5 years?

http://www.industrytap.com/pierre-godof ... tion/35356

would be a fair return of justice? but not , no mercedes input at viry actually

In fact there are several ex mercedes engineers working at Renault this year.
Not at least, it is in Mercedes interest that they are competitive.
If not, a new engine formula would be introduced, and is not what they want.

[F1NAC]

reading on twitter, Renault spent only 3 tokens for Monaco upgrade. they still have 21 left

[jure]

From regulations; for 3 tokens they probably modified one (or more items, if allowed?) of the folowing
Ports, Piston crown, Combustion chamber, Valves geometry, timing, lift, injector nozzle, coils,spark plug

[Sevach]

reading on twitter, Renault spent only 3 tokens for Monaco upgrade. they still have 21 left

Half a second from 3 tokens? That's something...

In fact turned the whole ship around with just 11.

[gandharva]

No way you can switch to Mahle system with only 3 tokens! Seems the Taffin interview was right and Renault still is not using Mahle. Source (Twitter link) for the 3 token?

/edit
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renau ... de-741171/

Ferrari 26 (6 remaining)
Honda 18 (14 remaining)
Mercedes 21 (11 remaining)
Renault 11 (21 remaining)

No way they switched to Mahle!

[ReoPTy]

50 hp up during the winter + 35 hp up on the new spec
that is 85 hp up compared to last year.
Mercedes were smart on putting their people both on Ferrari and Renault f1 engine departments.
And you can see that the Renault engine at last is where it should have been last year...
So now the biggest looser is Toro Rosso.

http://www.formel1.de/news/news/2016-05 ... ate-bringt

yes as Pierre godof and most ex renault engineer works out for amg since 5 years?

http://www.industrytap.com/pierre-godof ... tion/35356

would be a fair return of justice? but not , no mercedes input at viry actually

In fact there are several ex mercedes engineers working at Renault this year.
Not at least, it is in Mercedes interest that they are competitive.
If not, a new engine formula would be introduced, and is not what they want.

Mercedes input at viry? Who? AMG keep the best for thier factory, exepted a top input who switched to ferrari in 2014

[ME4ME]

I wonder if Renault have planned another step this season. They have talked about bringing half a second for the start of the season, and half a second at Canada, which was moved forward at least for 2 cars. Traffin has also said the 2017 will be another big step forward. It seems to imply no more upgrades this season, in which case the tokens are now irrelevant for Renault.

[NL_Fer]

I wonder if they used a new qualifing mode for Ricciardo, almost 1s quicker than FP and first part of Q. And if they have, can they run it for more then 1 lap?

[PlatinumZealot]

No way you can switch to Mahle system with only 3 tokens! Seems the Taffin interview was right and Renault still is not using Mahle. Source (Twitter link) for the 3 token?

/edit
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renau ... de-741171/

Ferrari 26 (6 remaining)
Honda 18 (14 remaining)
Mercedes 21 (11 remaining)
Renault 11 (21 remaining)

No way they switched to Mahle!

Why not? It is doable... Remember the seven token spend over the winter could have set the foundation for the TJI upgrade leaving just a few tiny mods to fully integrate it. We will never know.

[ReoPTy]

there are lot of gossip about pre chamber stuff, what stun me is the fact its not in the rules, Cowell said No, Taffin said No and because Malhe works for years with Ferrari, their actual in devlopment Tji might be adapted to Ferrari F1 engine ?


Till a major top head of engine DEV from ferrari, Mercedes, Honda Renault doesn't comes out and details it,all of these is pure BS imaginated by somes judge dred or other vegetal journoyos plant rising around F1 world

[NL_Fer]

there are lot of gossip about pre chamber stuff, what stun me is the fact its not in the rules, Cowell said No, Taffin said No and because Malhe works for years with Ferrari, their actual in devlopment Tji might be adapted to Ferrari F1 engine ?


Till a major top head of engine DEV from ferrari, Mercedes, Honda Renault doesn't comes out and details it,all of these is pure BS imaginated by somes judge dred or other vegetal journoyos plant rising around F1 world

That is F1, for example the seamless shift gearbox (anybody seen autogyro lately?) The seamless shift was never shown by the teams, because of so much patents on the technology.

Also the gps acceleration and fuel usage makes it clear some engines have a very efficient combustion.