You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?FoxHound wrote:dans79 wrote:Marko already laying it on thick about how they have a huge power deficit, but they will try and make it all up with their "outstanding car".
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... u-straight
But Marko was pessimistic ahead of the European Grand Prix saying: "The extremely long straight will not benefit us.
"Our computer simulations showed we will lose 1.2s per lap there.
"This is almost impossible to make up in the corners, though we have an outstanding car."
Despite this view, Marko is hopeful Red Bull will "be chasing Mercedes and on the same level with Ferrari" on the 3.732-mile street track.
He would be well advised to watch a Red Bull keep a Mercedes behind at Canada for a number of laps.
The engine cannot be used as an excuse anymore, whereas before at certain times venues it was a valid excuse.
It's just Marko BS, again. His doctorate must be of the Disney variety....
I'm saying exactly as I said... at an engine track, with DRS, a Mercedes could not overtake a Red Bull Renault.SR71 wrote:You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?
I have made a quick calculation. Lets say that Mercedes has a average speed of 340km/h (94,4m/s) for 2200m, they will cover the streight in 23,3s. For RB to be 1,2s slower on the long streight as sugessted by Marko, they would cover it in 24.5s. This would mean, that the RB car would go on average 89.8m/s or 323km/h.SR71 wrote:You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?FoxHound wrote:dans79 wrote:Marko already laying it on thick about how they have a huge power deficit, but they will try and make it all up with their "outstanding car".
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... u-straight
He would be well advised to watch a Red Bull keep a Mercedes behind at Canada for a number of laps.
The engine cannot be used as an excuse anymore, whereas before at certain times venues it was a valid excuse.
It's just Marko BS, again. His doctorate must be of the Disney variety....
BanMeToo wrote:I've yet to see a track map that has DRS labels on it. Anyone have one?
FoxHound wrote:I'm saying exactly as I said... at an engine track, with DRS, a Mercedes could not overtake a Red Bull Renault.SR71 wrote:You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?
For Nico, however, a late puncture forced a second stop. It looks like he also collected some debris in one of his radiators, as he had overheating throughout the race. While this may not necessarily have affected his performance, it would have been quite a big distraction to manage.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/montr ... &q=rosberghe was managing the car and also marginal on fuel, so he couldn't attack every lap. He had a great battle with Verstappen, who was defending very well, then lost the car under braking into the final chicane, fighting hard for every point.
So is it a puncture? His tyres? His radiator?ME4ME wrote:For Nico, however, a late puncture forced a second stop. It looks like he also collected some debris in one of his radiators, as he had overheating throughout the race. While this may not necessarily have affected his performance, it would have been quite a big distraction to manage.http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/montr ... &q=rosberghe was managing the car and also marginal on fuel, so he couldn't attack every lap. He had a great battle with Verstappen, who was defending very well, then lost the car under braking into the final chicane, fighting hard for every point.
I'm saying that you seem to draw conclusions from an isolated incident. Not only is it stupid, this particular incident isn't even representative, for the reasons I just quoted.FoxHound wrote:So is it a puncture? His tyres? His radiator?
Heating was marginal for him due to following traffic for most the race too. Other than fuel, Why would he fall back one lap then attack the next?
And if you are going to start talking about marginality of fuel, surely this is then an advantage for Renault....
FoxHound wrote:I'm saying exactly as I said... at an engine track, with DRS, a Mercedes could not overtake a Red Bull Renault.SR71 wrote:You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?
So how does vettel making short work of both red bulls factor into this spat you guys are having? LolSR71 wrote:FoxHound wrote:I'm saying exactly as I said... at an engine track, with DRS, a Mercedes could not overtake a Red Bull Renault.SR71 wrote:You're saying Renault is now on par with Mercedes Power?
So fuel saving by the following Mercedes and the now very well known dirty air issue Mercedes had have nothing to do with it.
It's just a power issue? Did I understand you correctly?
Well according to foxhound Renault and Mercedes are now equal on power.giantfan10 wrote:So how does vettel making short work of both red bulls factor into this spat you guys are having? LolSR71 wrote:FoxHound wrote:
I'm saying exactly as I said... at an engine track, with DRS, a Mercedes could not overtake a Red Bull Renault.
So fuel saving by the following Mercedes and the now very well known dirty air issue Mercedes had have nothing to do with it.
It's just a power issue? Did I understand you correctly?
Oh no, not at all. I mean it's always something other than the Red Bull having enough power to not only overtake cars with "superior" engines, but also to defend.ME4ME wrote:I'm saying that you seem to draw conclusions from an isolated incident. Not only is it stupid, this particular incident isn't even representative, for the reasons I just quoted.FoxHound wrote:So is it a puncture? His tyres? His radiator?
Heating was marginal for him due to following traffic for most the race too. Other than fuel, Why would he fall back one lap then attack the next?
And if you are going to start talking about marginality of fuel, surely this is then an advantage for Renault....
That wily Aussie eh?“I think we’ve got pretty good straight-line speed now so we’re in a position to overtake.”