2016 European Grand Prix - Baku City Circuit, Fri 17 – Sun 19 Jun

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Since seeing Valtteri hit 351 km/h in FP1, does anyone have any predictions on what the highest speed trap rating will be this weekend?
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I don't understand the curb placement on this track. They've made it much slower than it could be, and much less interesting in my opinion. And I don't see see how "safety" could be considered the reason as some of these examples don't involve major breaking points.

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Turn 4
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Turn 6
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Turn 7
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Turn 8
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Turn 15
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Compare these to Turn 1
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Why have they done this? How often do drivers hit the inside wall of a corner as opposed to the outside? Putting curbs in these positions feels like a pointless exercise anyway given the presence of walls. The drivers have no ability to gain an advantage by exceeding track limits because that would mean instant retirement.

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Turn 8 is odd, the drivers just straight line the kerb, zero point in the way they have profiled it


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I believe there were screws or something sticking out from the kerbs and they were cutting up the tires

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digitalrurouni wrote:I believe there were screws or something sticking out from the kerbs and they were cutting up the tires
there were also sharp edges which they welded later

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Another great reason to get rid of them altogether.

Seriously, is there a logical reason to have curbs/kerbs at this track aside from defining where they would 'prefer' to see the drivers driving?

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Mclaren seem to be doing very well considering they are hamstrung by the Honda engine, so they tell us anyway.
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flickerf1 wrote:Since seeing Valtteri hit 351 km/h in FP1, does anyone have any predictions on what the highest speed trap rating will be this weekend?
They reached 366 in Mexico, so could they improve this? I would like to see it!

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Mclaren has decided they are done whit hiding they true speed in 2016? :D
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mclarenHonda sneezing!!!!

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Fulcrum wrote:Another great reason to get rid of them altogether.

Seriously, is there a logical reason to have curbs/kerbs at this track aside from defining where they would 'prefer' to see the drivers driving?
Its so that there is 'something' there for the drivers to negotiate on the apex of the corner requiring them to balance their entry point. If it wasn't there then they'd just get their outside wheel as close to (but still outside) the white line on the apex making every corner much shallower.

Imagine the sequence in the image shown above, without the kerb there altogether the drivers would be able to 'straight line' through there with no penalty and no application of skill. At least with a kerb there there is a balancing act to be done of entry speed, aggressiveness over the kerb and steering input.

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GoranF1 wrote:Mclaren has decided they are done whit hiding they true speed in 2016? :D
Haha, better late than never! :D

Well, Alonso is reporting problems with the gear box...

What happens with Ferrari? they are out of the front positions....

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Lewis was 8/10s up on Nico's time before that mistake.
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