2016 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, 22-24 July

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SectorOne
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LionKing wrote:
Wasn't that Safety car conditions???
My point is things can be on the racetrack just around the corner and big accidents can happen if the only thing a driver needs to do is lift for one tenth then attack the following corners at full speed even though he has no idea what lies ahead.
The FIA is pushing for halos but then technically would allow drivers to go by areas of incident at full speed given they lifted three corners ago.

Why am i even surprised, it´s the FIA, they don´t know any better.
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NL_Fer wrote:Wat he did, was go full throttle into the yellow zone, backed off at the first yellow flag, slowing done his speed into turn 8, which automaticly means he was down on speed between turn 8 and 9.
Speed from Nico's car
someone at autosport has posted this

GPS data from live timing:

KPH readings through turn 8.

Previous Personal best lap
183, 188, 192, 201, 205, 209, 212, 213, 209, 202, 197, 192, 188, 181, 178, 174, 169, 167, 164, 160, 157, 158 ... entry turn 9


Yellow flag lap
181, 190, 194, 199, 196, 195, 192, 189, 185, 177, 174, 170, 167, 164, 160, 159, 157, 152, 153, 158 ... entry turn 9

Maximum speed 14kph slower
Minimum speed 5kph slower

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siskue2005 wrote:Lewis :"If it is only a tenth you have to lose that is now different for us drivers and we can approach it differently. But I'm sure not that is the safest approach."
- How much did Hulkenberg slow down in Austria? Was it 0,x s or 'sufficiently'? Missed it? Didn't care about safety then? Safety my bottom, both your and Hamilton's interest are driver not safety related. I don't recall Hamilton's concern with consistency and safety after getting away with murder in Spain, blocking Ricciardo or pushing drivers off (Rosberg in Canada was more in front than Hamilton in Austria (BS excuse), where was your consistency then?).

- About those nonsense 0,2 0,5 s or whatever numbers (there's always something like that here #-o ). There are no fixed rules like that. What if sector is 50 or 30 s? What if track is 2 or 4 s quicker? Still 0,2 or 0,5?

- The very fact that Horner says jump and FIA says how high makes me sick. In '15 Ricciardo gets away with 4 causing collision drive through penalties (Austria, Japan, Hungary, Monaco) and in '16 he 'agrees' with Rosberg's 10 s in Austria. Surprise, surprise they couldn't squeeze anything out if this one because they saw the numbers and didn't even investigate there and then.

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But according to stewards the telemetry showed he slowed significantly into T8.

So where in that list of numbers is entry to T8?

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iotar__ wrote:
siskue2005 wrote:Lewis :"If it is only a tenth you have to lose that is now different for us drivers and we can approach it differently. But I'm sure not that is the safest approach."
- How much did Hulkenberg slow down in Austria? Was it 0,x s or 'sufficiently'? Missed it? Didn't care about safety then? Safety my bottom, both your and Hamilton's interest are driver not safety related. I don't recall Hamilton's concern with consistency and safety after getting away with murder in Spain, blocking Ricciardo or pushing drivers off (Rosberg in Canada was more in front than Hamilton in Austria (BS excuse), where was your consistency then?).

- About those nonsense 0,2 0,5 s or whatever numbers (there's always something like that here #-o ). There are no fixed rules like that. What if sector is 50 or 30 s? What if track is 2 or 4 s quicker? Still 0,2 or 0,5?

- The very fact that Horner says jump and FIA says how high makes me sick. In '15 Ricciardo gets away with 4 causing collision drive through penalties (Austria, Japan, Hungary, Monaco) and in '16 he 'agrees' with Rosberg's 10 s in Austria. Surprise, surprise they couldn't squeeze anything out if this one because they saw the numbers and didn't even investigate there and then.
I stopped reading from the bold part.... as it was single yellow flag at Austria for Hulkenberg

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GrandAxe wrote:
RedNEO wrote:Nico pulled a great lap and deserved the pole he's been faultless throughout the sessions. Glad he kept it he's had the rough end of the stick from stewards lately. Hamilton fans don't like it even despite this but anything but him on pole they'd find something to complain about.
This has got to be sarcasm.
No what I meant to say was something something something Lewis is a god.

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I watched the onboard lap several times before I spotted where the flags were...you would think a driver slowing "significantly" would be more noticeable than that!!
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After all the sh@t he's pulled this season, I hope his gearbox will have a sense of karma this weekend.

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Albert Fabrega ES ‏@AlbertFabrega
Decisión 107%: se confirma la aplicación d la norma. Como hay más d uno se alinearán acorde con libres 3.

Even though I don't speak Spanish, as far as I'm concerned it means the Red Bulls, Force Indias and Bottas WILL BE placed at the back of the grid, right?

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So, Rosberg has now come off easy on three separate, to everyone else, pretty obvious rule infringement. Somethings fishy....

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SchuMassa wrote:Albert Fabrega ES ‏@AlbertFabrega
Decisión 107%: se confirma la aplicación d la norma. Como hay más d uno se alinearán acorde con libres 3.

Even though I don't speak Spanish, as far as I'm concerned it means the Red Bulls, Force Indias and Bottas WILL BE placed at the back of the grid, right?
Oh my god. I think they're being demoted to the back of the grid. Ridiculous FIA.
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adrianjordan wrote:I watched the onboard lap several times before I spotted where the flags were...you would think a driver slowing "significantly" would be more noticeable than that!!
In Rosberg's defense those 2 corners are pretty slow already, i think at the speeds he was he could stop the car immediately if needed (which is pretty much what double yellows calls for).

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flickerf1 wrote:
SchuMassa wrote:Albert Fabrega ES ‏@AlbertFabrega
Decisión 107%: se confirma la aplicación d la norma. Como hay más d uno se alinearán acorde con libres 3.

Even though I don't speak Spanish, as far as I'm concerned it means the Red Bulls, Force Indias and Bottas WILL BE placed at the back of the grid, right?
Oh my god. I think they're being demoted to the back of the grid. Ridiculous FIA.
Then not only these 5 drivers are effected, but Massa, both Renaults, Ericsson and both Manors as well.

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Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1
The FIA has started to feed us info, cars deemed to be outside 107% in Q1 will start in P3 order. They were in bottom six and funnily enough Q1 and P3 order is same for those guys!!! PAL, MAS, MAG, ERI, WEH, HAR

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Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1
We still don't know what will happen to those who progressed to Q2, ie RIC, VES, PER, HUL and BOT. I suspect they will be OK...