2016 German Grand Prix - Hockenheim, 29-31 July

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GPR-A wrote:Absolutely great race by Red Bulls. Loved to see both of them on podium. It must be said, Ric is really pumped up with Max around. What a decision from RBR to put Max into RB, paying off handsomely. Max wasn't sulking to be third, despite getting a jump on Ric.
Agreed , but Ricciarcdo had the better strategy today, wich was deserved, his pace on the SS was strong!
Nice to see that team on the rise again!

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komninosm wrote:
Sniffit wrote:Rosberg was probably pissed at VES for blocking under braking.
I have to say that while ROS deserved a penalty by the rules, VES is using dirty defending like Schumcher race in race out and has to also get a penalty some day...
Rosberg was just clumbsy, Austria like ....

Verstappen, dirty?

Why do you think that?

He left miles of space for Rosberg, something Rosberg did not do for Verstappen ....

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Sky has shown in its slow motion that Rosberg was in full lock and turning, so the penalty was harsh and on the limit on Ros

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Rosberg just admitted that he didn't turn in on purpose and then ran out of steering lock on corner exit running Verstappen off track. Lauda also confirmed that Rosberg could have easily turned in earlier. So there shouldn't really be any discussion about it.

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Watching the replay rosberg blatantly guilty. Same angle as with Lewis in a previous race.

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Just looking at Anthony Davidson's analysis. Rosberg wasn't on full lock by the exit of the corner. He had well wound back and stayed on the edge of the track well into the straight.

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komninosm wrote:
Sniffit wrote:Rosberg was probably pissed at VES for blocking under braking.
I have to say that while ROS deserved a penalty by the rules, VES is using dirty defending like Schumcher race in race out and has to also get a penalty some day...
Again Rosberg makes a manoeuvre on a wrong place on the track, whenever you think Verstappen was a bit dirty or whatever, wrong place on the track. Again on the first part of the corner. If you want to be WC, these are not the actions that makes your season.

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Rosberg penalty was too harsh and completely uncalled for. He was on full lock, and verstappen would've gotten more space on the exit had he not moved in the braking zone (again), forcing Rosberg to take a tighter entry (hence a wider exit). He's going to cause a cluster fXck if he keeps doing that everytime he defends.
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RZS10 wrote:Rosberg just admitted that he didn't turn in on purpose and then ran out of steering lock on corner exit running Verstappen off track. Lauda also confirmed that Rosberg could have easily turned in earlier. So there shouldn't really be any discussion about it.
I don't think anyone would deny that Rosberg screwed up or claim that the punishment wasn't fair. It was obvious what he did.
But at the same time I can understand why he did it, they have all had a talk with Max about what's acceptable and not and by all accounts he understood their point and took it to heart, yet he does the same thing again, ie. move to block under braking.

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Error.
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justmoi wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Absolutely great race by Red Bulls. Loved to see both of them on podium. It must be said, Ric is really pumped up with Max around. What a decision from RBR to put Max into RB, paying off handsomely. Max wasn't sulking to be third, despite getting a jump on Ric.
Have to agree with Redbull and Ves part. Ruthless cold blooded result oriented decision. Conversely at Ferrari, I think they'll find that soon, especially more next year when more teams will improve that they'll need two absolutely top drivers during both qualifying and race

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Redragon wrote:Sky has shown in its slow motion that Rosberg was in full lock and turning, so the penalty was harsh and on the limit on Ros
I thought it Harsh. Brundle and co all concurred it would be harsh to give a penalty too, but in the end Rosberg has to suck it up and move on.
This just puts the onus back on not overtaking when there is a sniff of a chance, aka not racing.

Some posters comparison to the Hamilton/Rosberg incident in Austria is completely wrong. Rosberg was in the lead there for a start and the intention was clearly to run the other guy out of road.
Here, you can see that Rosberg was making a very reasonable attempt to take the racing line through the corner, being second, and taking the lead car under braking.
JET set

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Divebombing by braking late and blocking the track till you finally turn your wheel a meter from the edge of the track........that doesnt actually look any better in slow mo....

"But I braked too late and lost control" isnt an excuse. He wasnt on the limit. He omce again went deep, saw the other car preparing for a good drive out the corner while his line was compromised and parked sideways across the track.

Rule 20.5 moves liable to hinder another driver.

Blocking off the track by parkiing across them is a pretty good hindrance.
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^^ Fox I have to disagree mate. When you see the replay and pics again, Nico had way too much room on the inside. He could have turned in earlier, better. What you say that seems mitigating is negated once you factor in it could have been pre planned to deny Ves being ahead after the corner
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Rosberg deserves a penalty point for that. He didn't learn from Austria.