2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[Andres125sx]

They have developed no doubt, but I think people underestimate just how much dominance in so many areas that Merc have that they have to get correct all in this short winter.

It's such a fast moving development train that they really do need another huge jump. A change in regs provides half an opportunity in that sense- I really hope it's something that they focussed on for theee years but I just don't get that impression from what we read.

One thing that fills us with hope is the advanced stage they are at with the power train for this season. Hopefully they can get close to Ferrari and then push on to get closer to Mercedes.

But you´re assuming Mercedes advantage will remain next season, and rule changes will provide an opportunity to the rest, when that´s not absolutely correct. As you said yourself Mercedes advantage relies on many areas, not only the PU, so with a huge rule change, many of those areas are redesigned, so their current advantage will not be the same next season.

Ok they can do it as good as this era, but it´s a new starting point, with best PU, but the rest is new so if we agree Mercedes domination is not based exclusively on the PU, we must agree next season their advantage cannot be the same

[Redragon]

good job by jenson even though he had a ERS problem, race pace was good for a one stopper. hopefully in 2018 jenson and vandorne will partner for Mclaren . i dont think anyone would want alonso for the salaray he is asking. mclaren need drivers that motivate the team and not whinners

wow, you're looking waaaaaay into the future.

I personally Don't care if he Whines or not and to be quit Frank it's one of the ways that Fernando whips the factory. (unless of course you think that McLaren's Chassis is the best ! ). I personally think he's had MUCH to complain about over the last 2 years.

We have no idea if Vandorne has what it takes. Up until now we've found out that Vandorne's a king among boyz. F1 is full of Drivers with Vandorne's credentials that don't have Fernando's abilities. We'll find out next year how good he is among MEN.
Then we can start looking at what we'll do in 2018.

also to add, it wasn't Alo asking for that salary it was Honda who wanted him and offer him that amount, Mr Techman

[DiogoBrand]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

[bauc]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

He said: Yes I am pushing. I am pushing from lap one. But we are driving for 15 laps with a car that should not be in the race. So do your job, I’m doing mine

[ncassi22]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

He said: Yes I am pushing. I am pushing from lap one. But we are driving for 15 laps with a car that should not be in the race. So do your job, I’m doing mine

I think Brundle misinterpreted this. Alonso might have been referring to Sainz. Two reasons this might be the case. 1 - He thought he should have gotten a harsher penalty for pushing him off, and 2- Sainz said early on that his gearbox was failing; which Mclaren probably relayed to Alonso. "...with a car..." could just mean together with Sainz on track. ORRRRRRR... I am wrong.

[GoranF1]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

He said: Yes I am pushing. I am pushing from lap one. But we are driving for 15 laps with a car that should not be in the race. So do your job, I’m doing mine

He had engine problem...45hp down on power.

[Vasconia]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

He said: Yes I am pushing. I am pushing from lap one. But we are driving for 15 laps with a car that should not be in the race. So do your job, I’m doing mine

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer. He always so harsh!

[Thunder]

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer. He always so harsh!

Still better than being Charlie Whiting.

[Andres125sx]

I know this is old news, but can somebody tell precisely what Alonso said on that team radio?
If I got it right, he said he was fighting for 15 laps against a car that should not be on the race (his own, from what I gather). Is that right?

He said: Yes I am pushing. I am pushing from lap one. But we are driving for 15 laps with a car that should not be in the race. So do your job, I’m doing mine

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer. He always so harsh!

As most drivers when they´re asked to push.

DeLaRosa says it repeatedly, there´s nothing more frustrating and infuriating than an engineer saying "please push now" or similar petitions, like if he would be travelling on the track

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer.

Not even close to being a McHonda driver

[proteus]

Its hard to be Alonso. Its allways someone elses fault, one way or another. It is the team, the car, other drivers on track or engineers. Allways someone elses fault. Its hard to be Alonso.

[Andres125sx]

Its hard to be Alonso. Its allways someone elses fault, one way or another. It is the team, the car, other drivers on track or engineers. Allways someone elses fault. Its hard to be Alonso.

Yes he certainly have a problem recognizing his own mistakes, that´s always been difficult for him.

But they´re drivers, not politicians. Only problem with Alonso is he always expect his team to perform at top level. If they can´t keep up, they´ll be critiziced. He could be more diplomatic, agree, but this is F1, not any school with kids who can be easily offended

Probably I´m biased as I support Alonso, but apart from that I´ve never liked too diplomatic people. To me it´s not diplomacy, it´s lack of sincerity and clarity and it commonly brings many confusions and problems. I do prefer direct and sincere people, even if they´re sometimes harsh. Specially in F1 where there´s so much secrecy most comments from all parts are usually as interesting as watching a snail going from A to B. People like Alonso, Kimi or Max provide some entertainment in this aspect. At least you know what they really think and that´s not common in F1

[GoranF1]

Its hard to be Alonso. Its allways someone elses fault, one way or another. It is the team, the car, other drivers on track or engineers. Allways someone elses fault. Its hard to be Alonso.

Its even harder to be you for sure.

[diffuser]

I don't know where Alonzo will go if he decides to leave but I think they were expecting podiums this year. They're not even close to a podium.


For them to get a podium they would need the right track and 4 out of the top 6 to retire.

If it rains it doesn't help them cause no matter how good Alonzo is in the rain the car GENERALLY runs low DF on all tracks. This makes being fast in the rain impossible. Teams that can run lots of DF generally do well in the rain.


From where I stand, I see a lack of power as a problem from the PU, I see drive-ability issues with the PU and I see a high center of gravity that aggravates chassis issues.

The Chassis has Change of direction issues, it has a lack of low speed grip and when they want to increase front downforce they hit a point that it detaches the flour seal in the back and they start to loose the back (Monaco issue).

There is alot of work....I expect them to compete for podiums next year.... will that be enough to make Alonzo happy ? Don't know but I think so.

[Vasconia]

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer. He always so harsh!

As most drivers when they´re asked to push.

DeLaRosa says it repeatedly, there´s nothing more frustrating and infuriating than an engineer saying "please push now" or similar petitions, like if he would be travelling on the track

Man, Its hard to be Alonso´s engineer.

Not even close to being a McHonda driver [/quote]

But its false they are pussing at 100% all the time, so there are several circustances where the drive must puss harder because of the strategy or certains circunstances. And this is that the engineer is trying to explain.

You cannot complain all the time about current F1 where a driver CAN´T push (said by Alonso dozens of times), and then said on the radio that you are pushing all the time.

They are adults and they know that the enginner is only tring to give them the best explanations, ideas and strategies to do each moment of the race. Experienced drives should be react in a better way, at least not being so harsh.

[Vasconia]

DeLaRosa says it repeatedly, there´s nothing more frustrating and infuriating than an engineer saying "please push now" or similar petitions, like if he would be travelling on the track

But its false they are pussing at 100% all the time, so there are several circustances where the drive must puss harder because of the strategy or certains circunstances. And this is that the engineer is trying to explain.

You cannot complain all the time about current F1 where a driver CAN´T push (said by Alonso dozens of times), and then said on the radio that you are pushing all the time.

They are adults and they know that the enginner is only tring to give them the best explanations, ideas and strategies to do each moment of the race. Experienced drives should be react in a better way, at least not being so harsh.[/quote]