2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

[RedNEO]

Great drives by Hamilton, Max and Vettel.

Nice cameo by Kimi early on but sadly not able to keep it up in this year's Ferrari. It reminded me of his pomp when he was a properly fast racer.

Vettel being very careful in the last few laps not to mix it with Nico. He didn't want to be blamed for any fall out should it have decided the unspeakable thing.

Max just needed a bit more pace in the car and he would have been right in the mix.

Masterful drive Hamilton. That's how you control a race from the front, not just buggering off in to the distance.

You realise hamiltons 'masterful' drive to go slow in the third sector to back everyone up only to get back up to speed didn't actually work right?

I think you can call it a masterpiece to keep his tires on temperature still driving more than 1.5sec in S3 slower than the usual pace.

Then we can call Rosbergs drive masterful too. He kept his tyres good following another car all race and made a crucial overtake and kept the likes of verstappen vettel ricciardo all behind him being in the middle of a sandwich.

[timbo]

Well, I wonder what the reactions would be if Rosberg became frustrated and just went banzai into the corner taking out both.

[michl420]

I hate is when someone whine that the car in front of him is too slow, He can just overtake it. Are we racing of what. (That is in gereral). Good drive from both.

[basti313]

You realise hamiltons 'masterful' drive to go slow in the third sector to back everyone up only to get back up to speed didn't actually work right?

I think you can call it a masterpiece to keep his tires on temperature still driving more than 1.5sec in S3 slower than the usual pace.

Then we can call Rosbergs drive masterful too. He kept his tyres good following another car all race and made a crucial overtake and kept the likes of verstappen vettel ricciardo all behind him being in the middle of a sandwich.

Hmmm...he had it easy. Tire temperatures high due to following within 1sec and no tire wear due to going so slow.
Vettel said it quite clear in the press conference: Due to Ham in front giving slipstream and DRS to Ros, he had no chance to attack Ros.

[basti313]

I hate is when someone whine that the car in front of him is too slow, He can just overtake it. Are we racing of what. (That is in gereral). Good drive from both.

Well, but this is nothing special. We had this from all sorts of drivers (Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso just to name three). If you are in a similar car, there is no way to overtake on many tracks.

[F312T2]

Good race by Rosberg, he was able to cope with the pressure. That was for sure not easy.

Great race for Vettel. This was highly needed for the team.

[RedNEO]

I think you can call it a masterpiece to keep his tires on temperature still driving more than 1.5sec in S3 slower than the usual pace.

Then we can call Rosbergs drive masterful too. He kept his tyres good following another car all race and made a crucial overtake and kept the likes of verstappen vettel ricciardo all behind him being in the middle of a sandwich.

Hmmm...he had it easy. Tire temperatures high due to following within 1sec and no tire wear due to going so slow.
Vettel said it quite clear in the press conference: Due to Ham in front giving slipstream and DRS to Ros, he had no chance to attack Ros.

I forgot to add Rosberg did all that while making it look easy

[timbo]

Tire temperatures high due to following within 1sec

I don't think hot air means that much. Heat generated by friction is MUCH greater than what can possibly be transferred from the mere hot air. If it was, it would boil driver at the same rate as warming the tires up.

[Mansell89]

reopened for business. Play nice, follow the rules and post about the WDC in the assigned topic

With all due respect, if the last race of the season decides the WDC, then people are going to talk about the WDC.

Why does everyone have to be treated like children and be micro moderated into different threads?

Any other week I'd understand but it was the season decider?

[turbof1]

reopened for business. Play nice, follow the rules and post about the WDC in the assigned topic

With all due respect, if the last race of the season decides the WDC, then people are going to talk about the WDC.

Why does everyone have to be treated like children and be micro moderated into different threads?

Any other week I'd understand but it was the season decider?

Quite a few members requested this. The general fear is that this overshadows the actual events of the race through bitter comments about deserving/not deserving the title, including events from past races, etc. Given what's been seen in the title thread, that fear is actually correct.

(For the record, this thread is going fine. The real children are in the title thread.)

[basti313]

Why does everyone have to be treated like children and be micro moderated into different threads?

Well, look at the last race threads. Barcelona was a good example: Nice race, a lot laps to discuss. But there was simply no discussion possible as it was spoiled by the first lap Ham vs. Ros. When this was excluded it became a nice thread.
Same here: There is so much to discuss about RedBull and Ferrari strategies. No way to discuss this with the WDC rant.

Any other week I'd understand but it was the season decider?

Good point. I would also like to see much more clean race threads. Maybe even with voting. But this would be only possible if we would exclude the usual "who is more lucky over the season", "who was the better driver in the year 1853", "is Ham better than Ros if you look at the last 100 races" nonsense.
Turbo?

[turbof1]

Why does everyone have to be treated like children and be micro moderated into different threads?

Well, look at the last race threads. Barcelona was a good example: Nice race, a lot laps to discuss. But there was simply no discussion possible as it was spoiled by the first lap Ham vs. Ros. When this was excluded it became a nice thread.
Same here: There is so much to discuss about RedBull and Ferrari strategies. No way to discuss this with the WDC rant.

Any other week I'd understand but it was the season decider?

Good point. I would also like to see much more clean race threads. Maybe even with voting. But this would be only possible if we would exclude the usual "who is more lucky over the season", "who was the better driver in the year 1853", "is Ham better than Ros if you look at the last 100 races" nonsense.
Turbo?

[basti313]

Why does everyone have to be treated like children and be micro moderated into different threads?

Well, look at the last race threads. Barcelona was a good example: Nice race, a lot laps to discuss. But there was simply no discussion possible as it was spoiled by the first lap Ham vs. Ros. When this was excluded it became a nice thread.
Same here: There is so much to discuss about RedBull and Ferrari strategies. No way to discuss this with the WDC rant.

Any other week I'd understand but it was the season decider?

Good point. I would also like to see much more clean race threads. Maybe even with voting. But this would be only possible if we would exclude the usual "who is more lucky over the season", "who was the better driver in the year 1853", "is Ham better than Ros if you look at the last 100 races" nonsense.
Turbo?

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Some rules might make your life easier.

[AMG.Tzan]

Toto pissed off with Hamilton! "Christian (Horner) had the idea of slowing Nico down and he (Hamilton) listened to him...maybe he should drive for him!" Nice one Toto...18 wins already this year...what's the point in maybe losing one and letting people enjoy Formula 1 a bit more! Not that Hamilton would have let Sebastian thru but ok! Oh and Nico had the option to pass Hamilton but he didn't have the speed apparently...

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Maybe they would have gained a bit more publicity and consequently money since F1 fans have been sick of seeing Mercedes win 52 of the last 60 races!
That's what Hamilton was trying to do...produce a nice race for Formula 1...hahaha
Anyway...i really loved Vettel's comeback...this year has made it look like he is nowhere anymore and has lost his edge! But no...he made brilliant moves especially the one on Verstappen i think made him happier than ever after the Verstappen blah blah this year! Still a huge race for Max coming back from a spin...this kid defends like hell...brilliantly!! The old saying "it's one thing to get close to Senna but getting past him is a different story" matches to Max, although i don't like comparisons with Senna!!
As for Hamilton i think that being able to control his pace in such a manner, backing up Rosberg in the 3rd sector and then getting out of DRS in the 1st sector, is not the easiest thing!! I think that he is a true champion in doing every single thing possible until the very last lap, without doing something outside the rules or something that would hurt the team's chances of winning the championship for example! And i mean what did Toto expect from him...he is one of the fastest drivers of his generation if not the fastest and that's what he is renowned for...being ruthless and not accepting defeat until the very last lap! Something Rosberg was criticized for in the past! And at the end of the day Nico did a nice job avoiding contact and keeping calm! Still it took this man, 3 blown engines and a handful of start problems for his teammate , to beat him at last! =D>

[basti313]

Maybe they would have gained a bit more publicity and consequently money since F1 fans have been sick of seeing Mercedes win 52 of the last 60 races!

I do not see the F1 rules giving that option. Winning is money. Not winning is less money.

That's what Hamilton was trying to do...produce a nice race for Formula 1...hahaha

Oh, that was his intention? That is so nice of him. At least one person that is not selfish

The old saying "it's one thing to get close to Senna but getting past him is a different story" matches to Max, although i don't like comparisons with Senna!!

The comparisons with Senna fail when you crash stupidly in turn 1.
We can of course praise him as the new Senna in every race he is good and forget about the other 50%. But all I know about Senna is, that he was no 50% driver, no matter at which age.
I hope for Ves that we do not rather have to compare him with Montoya or Grosjean in the future.

As for Hamilton i think that being able to control his pace in such a manner, backing up Rosberg in the 3rd sector and then getting out of DRS in the 1st sector, is not the easiest thing!!

Well...this is the point of a sector with a track layout like Monaco followed by a sector with fast corners...no idea why it is not easy.
Even if you watched F1 for the first time in Abu Dhabi, Ves vs Vet and Ves vs Ros showed, that it is far from simple to overtake here. Season after Season it shows, that it is a nonsense track painted on a big parking lot with a stupid layout.