McLaren MCL32 Speculation Thread

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If they aren't sure about the rear suspension geometry I foresee introduction of a an interchangeable gearbox outer shell like other teams have been running.

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Paul wrote:If they aren't sure about the rear suspension geometry I foresee introduction of a an interchangeable gearbox outer shell like other teams have been running.
I thought only Mercedes was running such a gearbox in F1. Other than that, Audi had it in their LMP1 once.

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a1b2i3r45 wrote:
FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
They won't be able to lower the sidepods, because of the much bigger barge boards.

What is the connection?

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Paul wrote:If they aren't sure about the rear suspension geometry I foresee introduction of a an interchangeable gearbox outer shell like other teams have been running.
I think most of the major teams will be going that route, it is only sensible, especially with the unknown of the pirelli tires next year, adjustability is the way to go. A "cassette" I believe most are calling it.

I shudder to think about the simulation software needed to optimize the rear suspension from race to race with that much adjustability.

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Nothing some expensive trial and error can't help. Just hope the fix is something simple like more suspension travel.
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FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
That looks extremely weird to be honest :shock:
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That short wheelbase render is glorious. Late 80's early 90's anyone?

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FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
If it's a pedal car, well, it may look good in the eye of a 4yo...

Sadly, the lengthened "airbox sails" will make a return AFAIK. Hopefully with the lowered rear wings the disgusting Volvo Wagon feeling won't come up again...

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Bence wrote:
FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
If it's a pedal car, well, it may look good in the eye of a 4yo...

Sadly, the lengthened "airbox sails" will make a return AFAIK. Hopefully with the lowered rear wings the disgusting Volvo Wagon feeling won't come up again...

So this is a pedal car?
MP4-13 1998 - 1800mm wide Fuel tank about 110 kgs, Wheel base 2950mm
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and this too?
MP4-12 1997 - 2000mm wide Fuel tank about 110 kgs, Wheel base 2900mm
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Current cars: Wheelbase 3550mm, Fuel tank volume including battery is about 160 Liters or 120 kgs

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FW17 wrote:
Bence wrote:
FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
If it's a pedal car, well, it may look good in the eye of a 4yo...

Sadly, the lengthened "airbox sails" will make a return AFAIK. Hopefully with the lowered rear wings the disgusting Volvo Wagon feeling won't come up again...

So this is a pedal car?
MP4-13 1998 - 1800mm wide Fuel tank about 110 kgs, Wheel base 2950mm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ttgart.jpg

and this too?
MP4-12 1997 - 2000mm wide Fuel tank about 110 kgs, Wheel base 2900mm
http://b.f1-facts.com/ul/a/5230


Current cars: Wheelbase 3550mm, Fuel tank volume including battery is about 160 Liters or 120 kgs
I think they look beautiful, whish the FIA would fix the wheelbase at maximum 3000-3100 mm. Current cars looks like limos and honestly I think shortening up alle the cars would improve racing ...

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How would shorter cars improve racing?
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wesley123 wrote:How would shorter cars improve racing?
By making the cars more twitchy and difficult to drive.

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Holm86 wrote: I think they look beautiful, whish the FIA would fix the wheelbase at maximum 3000-3100 mm. Current cars looks like limos and honestly I think shortening up alle the cars would improve racing ...
That along with a revision of rules on the body work behind the front wheel axis. This basically defines that the leading edge of the sidepod can only start behind the cockpit opening line. This needs to get shortened so that the sidepod is moved more forward.

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Bence wrote:
FW17 wrote:I wish someone goes for a short wheelbase car with wide low sidepods

The car would be incredibly fast and nimble through slow and medium speed corners while sacrificing high speed stability, however the fat tyres would take care of that.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... q2ktzc.jpg
If it's a pedal car, well, it may look good in the eye of a 4yo...

Sadly, the lengthened "airbox sails" will make a return AFAIK. Hopefully with the lowered rear wings the disgusting Volvo Wagon feeling won't come up again...
This is easy to deal with.

Imagine it's not a Volvo, but a Saab.

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A Saab Aero... hmm.

FW17, the -12 & -13 are a bit on the fat side (and with today's eyes they are so purposefully primitive), but luckily, they don't have the frumpy proportions the photochopped Pedal Car has.