Red Bull RB13 Speculation Thread

[Pierce89]

Having read multiple articles like this one, I was under the assumption the beam wing would make a more than welcome return

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tech ... style.html

Well did you read it or just look at the pictures? The article makes no mention of the beam wing. I don't really get people's obsession with such a minor wing anyway. I also never got the monkey seat obsession, oh well.

[turbof1]

Having read multiple articles like this one, I was under the assumption the beam wing would make a more than welcome return

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tech ... style.html

Well did you read it or just look at the pictures? The article makes no mention of the beam wing. I don't really get people's obsession with such a minor wing anyway. I also never got the monkey seat obsession, oh well.

Well a beam wing would be quite significant actually. It is a powerful tool to link the diffuser and rear wing, creating quite efficiently extra downforce.

You are right that a monkey seat is getting more attention than it's really worth, but the beam wing is a different ball park.

But regardless, this is not relevant is it will not be returning.

[Scuderia1967]

Having read multiple articles like this one, I was under the assumption the beam wing would make a more than welcome return

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tech ... style.html

Well did you read it or just look at the pictures? The article makes no mention of the beam wing. I don't really get people's obsession with such a minor wing anyway. I also never got the monkey seat obsession, oh well.

Check picture #3, and the arrow with the #2 pointing at a very obvious beam wing.
And no, I have no obsession with beam wings, but what if I had?

[Pierce89]

Having read multiple articles like this one, I was under the assumption the beam wing would make a more than welcome return

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tech ... style.html

Well did you read it or just look at the pictures? The article makes no mention of the beam wing. I don't really get people's obsession with such a minor wing anyway. I also never got the monkey seat obsession, oh well.

Check picture #3, and the arrow with the #2 pointing at a very obvious beam wing.
And no, I have no obsession with beam wings, but what if I had?

Uhhmm thats why I asked or just looked at the pictures
The text makes zero mention of a beam wing. I know a lot of misleading pictures are floating around, but there will be no beam wing next year. The only reason I said obsession was "a more than welcome return". I didn't know anyone was worried about it.

[Scuderia1967]

Well did you read it or just look at the pictures? The article makes no mention of the beam wing. I don't really get people's obsession with such a minor wing anyway. I also never got the monkey seat obsession, oh well.

Check picture #3, and the arrow with the #2 pointing at a very obvious beam wing.
And no, I have no obsession with beam wings, but what if I had?

Uhhmm thats why I asked or just looked at the pictures
The text makes zero mention of a beam wing. I know a lot of misleading pictures are floating around, but there will be no beam wing next year. The only reason I said obsession was "a more than welcome return". I didn't know anyone was worried about it.

So you looked at the pictures and still didn't find the beam wing in one of them? As for the "misleading pictures floating around", you do know the pictures from this article were made by Giorgio Piola, the leading expert when it comes to F1 technical drawings, or don't you?

[turbof1]

Well, it is quite a mood point since you now understand that there will be no beam wing.

Regarding Piola: you have to understand that at he drew at the time when the regulations were not finalised yet. He drew an interpretation from he heard and got told, but ultimately Piola is not involved at the discussion table and he too had to guess.

[lio007]

Oh no, no, no.
RB is supposedly forced to change a lot of their front and rear suspension design, because of a recently published technical directive by CW. The parts were even in production.
Although it's hard to believe that RB never asked CW for clarification before, when their suspension is hard on the edge.
I hate this rule clarifications so late in a design process. I'd prefer a deadline, eg. 1st November, where the FIA can publish such TD, but not in late December where design is finished and parts are in production. Clarifications after the deadline must wait until the techregs for the following season, eg.2018, are discussed.
Meanwhile we have to say kudos to this or that team for some clever and smart engineering.

Any insider around here, who can confirm?

http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2016/12 ... e.html?m=1

[Juzh]

Supposedly inquired by mercedes.

[ME4ME]

[FrukostScones]

Supposedly inquired by mercedes.

teams do this since ever then

[Juzh]

Supposedly inquired by mercedes.

teams do this since ever then

I know. I bet merc even intentionally waited this long, to throw RB even more off the rails (supposedly what article says it true). It's how things are done in F1.

[Pierce89]

I actually love the f1 "cold war" that goes on in the background. I wish we got more tidbits about TCs and whatnot.

[FrukostScones]

this older article AMuS article might refer to the things Merc and RB are battling for, maybe Merc got a legal system (or a not working system ) and now they retaliate against RB, because RB has such an enormous development advantage because of the 2017 bodywork rules coming (mainly ) from their pen...

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... rl&act=url

[scarbs]

Yes a TD has gone out, it affects several teams and should not be a huge surprise to them.
Some very clever stuff has been going on... =D>
I'll have the full details published this week.

[lio007]

Yes a TD has gone out, it affects several teams and should not be a huge surprise to them.
Some very clever stuff has been going on... =D>
I'll have the full details published this week.

Thanks Scarbs!

Obviously it wasn't Mercedes but Ferrari.
Affected teams still in talks with FIA!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ension-row

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-su ... 62612/?s=1