Sadly Mark Hughes seems not to understand that reducing the angle of attack of the wing is not stalling it. Quite the opposite. It reduces lift and hence drag but it's not stalled. The diffuser, on the other hand, may well stall as the rear ride height reduces.FW17 wrote:
There is an assumption that cannot be proven, that with stalling of the rear wing the heave spring is manipulated to stay down to enable a low drag configuration.
I agree with that =D> =D> No complaints if it helps McLaren !!RedNEO wrote:From what we are hearing it takes along time to get something like this to work as well as Mercedes or Red Bull. So while it may be partially true what you say about Ferrari if they have inturn indirectly helped McLaren I won't complain.Just_a_fan wrote:Like as not they couldn't get it to work properly so jabbed Charlie in to action instead. Typical Ferrari really.RedNEO wrote:Can't be a bad thing for Ferrari. They've effectively taken away a chunk of performance from not one but two of there biggest rivals.
Typical Ferrari hater... Every team uses this system to clarify some techincal solutions. It's not a "typical Ferrari" thing. There is nothing unfair about that. One the other hand, if no one asked FIA about that, Mercedes could use a system that is not allowed. And that is cheating.Just_a_fan wrote:Like as not they couldn't get it to work properly so jabbed Charlie in to action instead. Typical Ferrari really.RedNEO wrote:Can't be a bad thing for Ferrari. They've effectively taken away a chunk of performance from not one but two of there biggest rivals.
Some of us remember Ferrari doing this many years ago. It's not unusual for them to do it in an attempt to gain an advantage. The system is there so why not use it? All's fair. It's not "hating" to point out that some teams use the system more than others.santos wrote:Typical Ferrari hater... Every team uses this system to clarify some techincal solutions. It's not a "typical Ferrari" thing. There is nothing unfair about that. One the other hand, if no one asked FIA about that, Mercedes could use a system that is not allowed. And that is cheating.Just_a_fan wrote:Like as not they couldn't get it to work properly so jabbed Charlie in to action instead. Typical Ferrari really.RedNEO wrote:Can't be a bad thing for Ferrari. They've effectively taken away a chunk of performance from not one but two of there biggest rivals.
It is not necessarily clear to the scrutineers what function such a device has or how it operates and they are unlikely to disassemble it to check for themselves unless a protest has been lodged.Just_a_fan wrote: As for Mercedes' system being a cheat, it has passed scrutineering at every race. By definition it has been considered to be legal. By definition it's use is thus not cheating.
Hey Santos you better watch out. Ive already been downvoted for calling out the Ferrari haters in this thread. Anybody who thinks Ferrari "couldn't get it working" is more than slightly naive. Every f1 team has PLENTY of brain power to develop mechanical elements like this. Aerodynamics is virtually the only part of the car that is not virtually completely understood.santos wrote:Typical Ferrari hater... Every team uses this system to clarify some techincal solutions. It's not a "typical Ferrari" thing. There is nothing unfair about that. One the other hand, if no one asked FIA about that, Mercedes could use a system that is not allowed. And that is cheating.Just_a_fan wrote:Like as not they couldn't get it to work properly so jabbed Charlie in to action instead. Typical Ferrari really.RedNEO wrote:Can't be a bad thing for Ferrari. They've effectively taken away a chunk of performance from not one but two of there biggest rivals.
That is one of the big questions . How could FRIC be legal over such a long time? How can these hydraulic storage devices be legal over a year? What are Charlie and his team doing when they check the cars?FW17 wrote: How can that be proved within regulations?
Not me! I've been down voted too. Shame that anonymous voting occurs rather than debate.Pierce89 wrote:Wow the Ferrari haters have downvoted me twice in this thread.Mods?
Could it possibly be Just-a-Fan downvoting me? Surely not, as he normally presents as a rational human being.
They are asking for clarification on the rules.basti313 wrote: I can not understand why Ferrari needs to write such a stupid letter to get the rules applied.
