Vertically, not a lot. Rockers often have two mounting points yielding different MR's. I would expect a different track to have new rockers drilled to keep the motion ratio(s) constant.godlameroso wrote:What effect will having increased motion ratios have on suspension design for this year? The wider track means the outside tire will have a faster arc than last generation.
i have the same feelingf1316 wrote:Is anyone else more confused about what is and isn't legal than when this all began (likely just me being dim again)?
Seems like: AMuS reckon both Red Bull and Mercedes solutions are legal; Autosprint reckon only Red Bull's is illegal and that Ferrari will end up with a Mercedes style solution; but Scarbs seems to be saying both Red Bull and Mercedes solutions were illegal (but will have to see how they get round it).
Seems like the only thing that can possibly be clear is that it's still not that clear, right?
I think the real problem is that the Rules & TD's are draughted by people who don't understand the physics of a suspension. I would include many senior F1 engineers in that category. As Cold Fusion stated recently, "Sound logic from Charlie Whiting and the FIA is a very rare commodity."f1316 wrote:Is anyone else more confused about what is and isn't legal than when this all began?
I said it was surprising because many designs had ditched the corner springs altogether, relying on a heave spring the ARB (& the rear flexures, I guess).roon wrote: ... directly acts upon a torsion spring internal to it, one per corner.
I get the feeling a lot of it is just fake news, because they need to say something to drive clicks.f1316 wrote:Is anyone else more confused about what is and isn't legal than when this all began (likely just me being dim again)?
Seems like: AMuS reckon both Red Bull and Mercedes solutions are legal; Autosprint reckon only Red Bull's is illegal and that Ferrari will end up with a Mercedes style solution; but Scarbs seems to be saying both Red Bull and Mercedes solutions were illegal (but will have to see how they get round it).
Seems like the only thing that can possibly be clear is that it's still not that clear, right?
That's an RB12 image. It's on page 32 of the car thread. I took the liberty of translating the labeled parts as they're in French.DaveW wrote:Interesting. I believe the camera is looking across the vehicle ahead of the rear axle. That labelled "Rocker Arm" is probably the rear pull rod, attached to the rocker ahead of the rocker post, which tilted at 40 degrees to the vertical. I suspect the (faintly surprising) spring labelled "Coil over" could be (one of two) corner springs over rear corner dampers. The "Mounting Studs" probably attach the rear axle to the engine. It doesn't appear to be complete.
Questions: What vehicle? What year? Another view (from underneath, perhaps)?
p.s. roon could be correct.
