2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[mrluke]

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2018 Mclaren kicks out Honda after a rubbish reunion, 2018 is last year with Honda, no development, "transition year." Scoops in a brand new BMW F1 engine, 2019 becomes "transition year." 2020 new Engine regs, bin BMW for poor performance at end of season and go back to Mercedes.

Fixed

[Manoah2u]

Lol, sounds plausible.

[GoranF1]

https://twitter.com/McLarenAuto/status/ ... 1376218112

2018 Mclaren heads out for testing whit number 1 on their car for the first time since 2007 and again on Fernando Alonso's car, whit their colaboration whit Honda finnaly bearing fruits...

Fixed again.

[godlameroso]

I don't think that's happening, doesn't Honda have their engine lab in Milton Keynes? They could be part of the partnership, I don't see BMW touching F1 with a 60ft pole.

They're sinking money into a GTLM and GTE program for next year.

[Manoah2u]

i assume you mean 2009

[Peter1919]

https://twitter.com/McLarenAuto/status/ ... 1376218112

2018 Mclaren kicks out Honda after a rubbish reunion and scoops in a brand new BMW F1 engine and become WDC.

I assume this is for their road cars not their F1 car

[Gridlock]

It's kind of like looking at FIAT Chrysler for hints about Scuderia Ferrari's future though, isn't it.

[nancorocks]

Did the Tim Holmes desing in 3D





Full rez here: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Bzrbr

[PlatinumZealot]

Nice model and render skills. Was that done in Maya?

[nancorocks]

Nice model and render skills. Was that done in Maya?

3ds max+v-ray+photoshop+lightroom and a hdri, and thank you!

[Silent Storm]

McLaren signs 4 year deal with 3D printing company Stratasys.
http://investors.stratasys.com/released ... ID=1008748

[Silent Storm]

[Andres125sx]

Did the Tim Holmes desing in 3D

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/im ... 1486058021

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/im ... 1486058027

Full rez here: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Bzrbr

Wow I´m impressed with that render. One of the most real I´ve ever seen!

Great job, really =D> =D>

[Craigy]

I don't think that's happening, doesn't Honda have their engine lab in Milton Keynes? They could be part of the partnership, I don't see BMW touching F1 with a 60ft pole.

They're sinking money into a GTLM and GTE program for next year.

As I understand it, Honda's race development facility is at Sakura, in Japan. It's not F1-only (they do engines for touring cars, GPE etc), and HRD Sakura is quite a large facility.
In addition to engines, they also do complete cars there (eg. Super Formula, GT, Touring cars, etc).

There are now two Honda buildings in Milton Keynes.
One is the ex-Mugen Honda building, which was trading even when Honda decided to get out of most of its racing activities. It has some vent pipes for underground tanks, so they can run engines up, but I think it's more of a local stores/warehouse/rebuild place than anything else.
I don't think they really "develop" the engines (like, on dynos with test parts) here - I think that happens at Sakura.

The other building is the one Honda just built last year, which is an R&D facility. The planning documents in the UK are public, and the ones for HRD MK are here:
https://publicaccess2.milton-keynes.gov ... E2KKW00003

I think both buildings are now satellites of Sakura.
I doubt that even with the new building, they have anything like the scale to operate independently, but I only live locally (I'm 5 minutes from those buildings) and I don't have direct business dealings with Honda so this is mostly supposition from what I've seen locally.

I can tell you that the buildings aren't all that busy (their car parks are empty at the weekends, for example) - which is not something you can say about McLaren down in Woking.
I bet Sakura is pretty busy most of the time too.

[Craigy]

I don't see BMW touching F1 with a 60ft pole.

Been there, done that. I agree with you. I don't see the Quandt family moving forward with an F1 program after the last time.

On the flipside of the coin, and just by way of "how might this be possible", however - read the following. Just suppose..

This year just closed (2016), for the first time since 2004, BMW are no longer the worldwide leading supplier of sporty exec cars, having lost their lead to Mercedes. Business logic (read: bizarre backwardsthink) might put 2+2 together and come up with an F1 programme to rectify the loss of sales leadership.

BMW compete with Audi and Mercedes for this position (USA centric would be BMW, Merc and Lexus, but Lexus isn't a factor worldwide) - BMW winning top spot back from Mercedes in 2005. You can bet the management at BMW will be tasked with coming up with a plan to win this back.

You can never tell what they will come up with; something will have to change though, so they may decide to go racing again.
It may also come to nought; BMW are at a low point in their model cycle and Mercedes are at a high point, so it may flip back again "naturally".

Just a thought.