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THRAK wrote:Hi everyone, I am a newcomer on this forum, as I needed to put my two cents about this red beast
To me the most striking feature of the sidepod intake configuration is the accomodation of the upper side impact structure. As far as my understanding of rules goes I can only figure it being integrated in the bottom of the intake, something like this :
Now, could this be compatible with the technical rules ? If I remember correctly side crash structures are standard, and position of upper and lower parts too. The only 2017 change I am aware of is that bumps on the bodywork to accomodate the upper structure are no longer allowed.
If this is right, then the SF70 would be the first car to get free of this "upper lateral crash structure needs to be part of the upper side of air intake" scheme, in order to have the maximum amount of air to "play" with.
Good point!, The whole innovative sidepod intake could simply be a better workaround of the mandatory side-impact structure. Ferrari flows intake air over the upper impact structure, but everyone else goes under.
It looks like they finally used these sort of side crash-structure.. from this drawing.
If i am correct- back than they said it was a direct influence from Rory Byrne.. does someone know what Byrne did on this current SF70H car? Could these sidepods come from him?
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” - George Bernard Shaw
George-Jung wrote:It looks like they finally used these sort of side crash-structure.. from this drawing.
If i am correct- back than they said it was a direct influence from Rory Byrne.. does someone know what Byrne did on this current SF70H car? Could these sidepods come from him?
My thought exactly ! Perhaps the increased width of the 2017 cars has given the opportunity to have a try at this -slightly modified- concept (I don't think the actual shape would have been possible under the previous rules, being the intakes far too narrow for cooling requirements)
CriXus wrote:HD quality footage from today's shakedown.
Thanks for this. Kimi pushing the car pretty hard for a 'filming day'. Still hard to see, but the diffuser appears to have the same general shape as last year, just larger per the new regulations.
CriXus wrote:HD quality footage from today's shakedown.
Thanks for this. Kimi pushing the car pretty hard for a 'filming day'. Still hard to see, but the diffuser appears to have the same general shape as last year, just larger per the new regulations.
They don't use proper tyres for these days, correct?
Could the large brake ducts have anything to do with the blown axle and the bargeboards?
Because otherwise, it doesn't make sense to have so large brake ducts!
CriXus wrote:HD quality footage from today's shakedown.
Thanks for this. Kimi pushing the car pretty hard for a 'filming day'. Still hard to see, but the diffuser appears to have the same general shape as last year, just larger per the new regulations.
They don't use proper tyres for these days, correct?
i'm not surprised, after having seen the lower part of the nose with that side air inlet in the nose. the actual point of the nose hammers through the air and then the horizontal shape of the upper part of the nose flows air through underneath towards that inlet. it being 'bulkier' only suggests they're going to increase the force with which they intend to direct air.
i think everything looks rather cleverly and very purposefully positioned, which for a change, is something really positive looking.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"
Although the idea behind it becomes clear, these drawings are incorrect though.
First image: Both the green and the orange line need to be shortened by one third.
Second image: The green line needs to be shortened by one quarter to one third or by half the widh of the top air inlet. The orange needs to be shorten by 50% and continues at the edge in front of the santander logo.
Third image: The inlet is the inlet... Your drawing implies a bigger opening for "the actual inlet". There is an increase in volume behind the leading edge indeed. But so it has been ever since with most the cars.
I will change my smartypants now but:This simplification takes away a little of what ferrari has done here. They minimized the vertical volume for a smooth undercut. In order to deal with pressure and flow rates they had to place the air inlet on top.
