2017 F1 general testing thread

[BosF1]

Current "optimistic" hope - McLaren have sorted the oil reservoir, but wanted to test it thoroughly before confirming all good. Vandoorne is getting the car tweaked to suit whilst running short stints before going out for a proper run for full aero testing.

Not sure what caused the stop in the pit entrance though - is it possible that antistall wasn't enabled and he stalled it on pit entry?

Where did you find this information?

Autosport live:
A bit more information from McLaren after Vandoorne stopped this morning. As he entered the pits, the Belgian suggested stopping the car as a precaution because he felt something unusual and the team agreed. The team does not believe it was a reliability problem. After seven laps, none of them timed, he's in the garage now but expected out again shortly.

[Anthropolyte]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

[Restomaniac]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

That's fine I said I wasn't a expert.

[Anthropolyte]

Current "optimistic" hope - McLaren have sorted the oil reservoir, but wanted to test it thoroughly before confirming all good. Vandoorne is getting the car tweaked to suit whilst running short stints before going out for a proper run for full aero testing.

Not sure what caused the stop in the pit entrance though - is it possible that antistall wasn't enabled and he stalled it on pit entry?

Where did you find this information?

Autosport live:
A bit more information from McLaren after Vandoorne stopped this morning. As he entered the pits, the Belgian suggested stopping the car as a precaution because he felt something unusual and the team agreed. The team does not believe it was a reliability problem. After seven laps, none of them timed, he's in the garage now but expected out again shortly.

Only guesswork on my part, sorry to confuse. The information on Autosport only just came up - glad to know it wasn't anything major. But it does suggest that the oil problem may be sorted. I think everyone over there, drivers included, are just very nervous at the moment!

[turbof1]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

However, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a device that pulls/pushes the engine to simulate 3G or higher lateral, wouldn't it?

[turbof1]

Current "optimistic" hope - McLaren have sorted the oil reservoir, but wanted to test it thoroughly before confirming all good. Vandoorne is getting the car tweaked to suit whilst running short stints before going out for a proper run for full aero testing.

Not sure what caused the stop in the pit entrance though - is it possible that antistall wasn't enabled and he stalled it on pit entry?

Where did you find this information?

Autosport live:
A bit more information from McLaren after Vandoorne stopped this morning. As he entered the pits, the Belgian suggested stopping the car as a precaution because he felt something unusual and the team agreed. The team does not believe it was a reliability problem. After seven laps, none of them timed, he's in the garage now but expected out again shortly.

Only guesswork on my part, sorry to confuse. The information on Autosport only just came up - glad to know it wasn't anything major. But it does suggest that the oil problem may be sorted. I think everyone over there, drivers included, are just very nervous at the moment!

McLaren confirmed it was a precaution as Vandoorne felt "something strange", after which they apparently confirmed to be a setup issue.

[Santozini]

Well he is running again, so the Engine didn't implode.

and he is back again...

can you please share the link you guys using to track in season testing live ?. Skysports F1 is mega slow with periodic updates

I'm using this one. Quite fast updating, the best i found so far.

http://www.f1today.net/en/live/f1/22272 ... st-of-2017

[sAx]

The speed trap times themselves mean nothing, the car sitting at the top of last year's list proves this.

It means a lot as we have never seen a Red Bull in that position

Indeed, that rear squat under full DRS is mightily impressive!

http://images.adrivo.com/images/950/q_8 ... 805136.jpg

Surely the converse is true once DRS is active and the downforce is removed off the rear wing?

[3jawchuck]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

However, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a device that pulls/pushes the engine to simulate 3G or higher lateral, wouldn't it?

I'm pretty sure those things exist, I'm somewhat sure I've seen a video of one in operation. However failing that, is there anything stopping Honda fitting a non-F1 car with the engine and associated gear and giving it some track running? These problems they are having should probably have been ironed out already. I know "it's testing" but finding out that the oil supply is dependent on g-forces seems to me like something that should have been thought about long before they got to the track.

edit: something like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv53RbvgfGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny9xl7iWayU

[Anthropolyte]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

However, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a device that pulls/pushes the engine to simulate 3G or higher lateral, wouldn't it?

Probably not - but you'd have to have everything hooked up on some sort of platform that can be moved laterally at high speed. That would require a lot of room, which again probably wouldn't be a problem... I wonder if such a thing is in use by the other teams?

*edit* another possibility is that the oil tank was a late addition to the engine by Honda, perhaps to free up some space. It may not have gone through full testing, hence the "fix" of replacing it with another unit.

[FW17]

Not being an expert but I would have thought that you could run the engine laid 45% to the left and to the right to simulate the oil being pushed to the side under G's.

Or is that too simplified?

Too simplified. The effects of gravity will generate 1G if the engine is fully on its side. F1 cars are reported to be generating up to 3G of lateral force this year.

However, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a device that pulls/pushes the engine to simulate 3G or higher lateral, wouldn't it?

[Just_a_fan]

Hamilton's just done a 21.766 which is 0.001 slower than yesterday's best time. No doubt they're running to given times rather than pushing. Looking forward to seeing the qualifying simulations later in the testing cycle - should be impressive. =D>

[BosF1]

I'm expecting McLaren has now started their testing program properly, with Vandoorne circulating again. Let's see what they can do in the remainder of the morning session.

[max_speed]

Vandoorne's first timed lap of the day is a 1m27.564s, and that's on soft tyres.
-------------- please push a bit and get close to times of ferrari/mercedes and give us a new ray of hope

[Anthropolyte]

Already improved to 1:26.766. They'll be taking it easy for the moment. Brand new engine, freshly fixed problem, pretty much guaranteed they've turned the PU down.